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Post by matt on Sept 7, 2015 13:59:32 GMT -6
Some coffee has dripped from my espresso-machine onto a white cupboard-door. Its impossible to get it clean! I am guessing the java will bind excellent with cotton! Momotaro has a green-tea dyed shirt.  Come to think of it, what else gives good stains, well, wine!, citrus and ketchup. Go crazy! Why not try tea first on a t-shirt, then bind it batik-style in many rings, then do the rest with wine, bind yet again and finish off with ketshup. Could dip just the arms and waist in coffe also! So you're suggesting a condiment and beverage tie-dye? Now we're talking. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2015 14:09:39 GMT -6
Let them dry a day or so. I'd think it would only maybe make them darker. Which I think would look better. I took the advice. With rain in the forecast, I hung them in the garage, over night. They are sunbathing again, now. They stunk up the garage, though. They will definitely be getting rinsed TONIGHT ! Those look GREAT! Dude, let them hang in the sun at least a few days! It helps get rid of some of the smell and you'll get the final shade nailed down. I mean, you don't have to but unless you're really in a hurry, I'd go a few days in the sun. The smell will diminish with rinsing in the washing machine btw and in general just goes away. I've been thinking about doing another pair of jeans and not rinsing them at all. Just soak, hang outside for a week and then just leaving them for a few months someplace. Maybe hang them in storage. If they still reek I'll throw them in a rinse but I'm thinking an unrinsed pair would get ridiculously good creases for fading. I'm sure you've notices how crinkly and stiff your are now that they're dry. Keep posting pics, the Ox2 and Kakishibu looks really great. |
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Post by Griffin on Sept 7, 2015 14:10:03 GMT -6
I also know balsamico vinegar and soy can stain stuff and be added at will, and all of this food talk is making me hungry! Wait a minute...butter color?
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Post by scooter on Oct 6, 2015 18:38:09 GMT -6
Oxblood × kakishibu update..... Well, it's been a month, and I figured I should post some final results. I held off soaking them for 1 week. I hung them outside 5 of 7 days (2 rain outs). They saw roughly 5 to six hours of sunlight per day. I gave them 2 cold water rinses. The weft has " dirtied" quite a bit, and show through is very muted. If there are any inconsistencies in the coverage of the kakishibu, as I thought, it is very hard to tell. It blends in quite well with the oxblood. When turned inside out, you can make out the outline of the back pockets. Obviously, the pocket, and pocket lining didn't allow the kakishibu to penetrate thoroughly to the denim beneath. No matter, as it doesn't affect the outward appearance, in any way. There is a problem, though. I've been losing weight. G's slim fit has always seemed a little weird on me. But, the waist is too loose, now. So, I may have to sell them. At least, I enjoyed the experiment.    |
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Post by Winterland on Oct 6, 2015 23:38:51 GMT -6
Oxblood × kakishibu update..... Well, it's been a month, and I figured I should post some final results. I held off soaking them for 1 week. I hung them outside 5 of 7 days (2 rain outs). They saw roughly 5 to six hours of sunlight per day. I gave them 2 cold water rinses. The weft has " dirtied" quite a bit, and show through is very muted. If there are any inconsistencies in the coverage of the kakishibu, as I thought, it is very hard to tell. It blends in quite well with the oxblood. When turned inside out, you can make out the outline of the back pockets. Obviously, the pocket, and pocket lining didn't allow the kakishibu to penetrate thoroughly to the denim beneath. No matter, as it doesn't affect the outward appearance, in any way. There is a problem, though. I've been losing weight. G's slim fit has always seemed a little weird on me. But, the waist is too loose, now. So, I may have to sell them. At least, I enjoyed the experiment. Wow those came out great. |
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Post by jeffr0 on Oct 7, 2015 19:33:04 GMT -6
Out of curiosity what does kakishibu smell like?
I was debating if I wanted to dye an old jean jacket with the stuff.
But if it smells horrible I might not want to mess with it.
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Post by DigDug on Oct 7, 2015 19:38:02 GMT -6
Out of curiosity what does kakishibu smell like? I was debating if I wanted to dye an old jean jacket with the stuff. But if it smells horrible I might not want to mess with it. Like some odd sort of rotten fruit. Not real strong but enough where I wouldn't wear a jacket for a few weeks. Let it hang out side for a week, soak it a couple times and hang again for a week. I only did a pair of Converse 70's. I didn't wear them for a month. Now no smell at all (other them my stinky feet) |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 9:39:18 GMT -6
What DigDug said. Rinse, sun, wait, repeat. The smell isn't bad, just not good. Less like roadkill, kind of like old fruit. I actually sort of like it now. |
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Post by DigDug on Oct 17, 2015 9:56:09 GMT -6
What DigDug said. Rinse, sun, wait, repeat. The smell isn't bad, just not good. Less like roadkill, kind of like old fruit. I actually sort of like it now. Lol, I had it out side airing out. It started to rain so my wife lovingly brought it inside. She went crazy cleaning, washing, mopping, spraying lavender and still couldn't figure out where the smell was coming from. I didn't fess up about the jacket hanging in the room. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 0:13:59 GMT -6
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Post by kakishibuchris on Oct 31, 2015 20:57:20 GMT -6
Hi Guys,
So glad you are enjoying the kakishibu. A couple of comments....the smell....to quote my husband "It smells like a wet dog that's been rolling in Parmesan." It does have the funky, ferment-y, cheesy odor. The smell does dissipate with time and rinsing. The garment out in the rain - best thing! Rinse and air all in one. Just be sure the kakishibu is totally dry before the rinse or rain. As to washing in the machine - bear in mind that kakishibu is a coating on the fiber and is subject to abrasion. The agitator in the machine provides plenty of abrasion. So, with repeated washings, you may notice changes in the color. If it gets too light, just do another application of kakishibu. For detergent choice, ph neutral is the best. Depending on what other chemicals are in the detergent, it has the potential to react with the tannin and alter the color.
Boo to you. Happy Halloween.
Cheers, Chris
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Post by Deleted on Nov 30, 2015 8:16:10 GMT -6
kakishibuchris is it only my imagination, or does the kakishibu react with ANY light source? I have yet to put my newly painted jacket in to sunlight, but it's still evolving and changing colors after 6 of days indoors drying.
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Post by kakishibuchris on Nov 30, 2015 23:42:01 GMT -6
Kakishibu will continue to darken for the life of the article, although at some point you probably need a spectrometer to measure the change. The vast majority of the color change is in the first three years. The majority of that in the first year. The majority of that in the first 6 months. The majority of that in the first 3 weeks. Or thereabouts. The color changes by the article simply existing. The main contributors to this change are light and oxygen. The more direct and stronger the light, the more rapid and dramatic the change. In you situation, how much of the change is by oxygen and how much is by the ambient light, I don't know. Putting it out in the sunlight will hurry things up. This is not the season for strong sunlight, though. Don't know where you live. Here in Colorado, it is still pretty strong, but the angle is low. I do know if you fold the clothing and sit it in a drawer, or on a shelf, etc., the top of the bundle and the outsides of the folds will get darker. That is why it is important to periodically change up how the clothing is folded. Hope that helps.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2015 0:50:59 GMT -6
Far better an answer than I expected kakishibuchris! I live in Okinawa, so I get loads of sunlight year round |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Dec 1, 2015 7:52:45 GMT -6
Kakishibu will continue to darken for the life of the article, although at some point you probably need a spectrometer to measure the change. The vast majority of the color change is in the first three years. The majority of that in the first year. The majority of that in the first 6 months. The majority of that in the first 3 weeks. Or thereabouts. The color changes by the article simply existing. The main contributors to this change are light and oxygen. The more direct and stronger the light, the more rapid and dramatic the change. In you situation, how much of the change is by oxygen and how much is by the ambient light, I don't know. Putting it out in the sunlight will hurry things up. This is not the season for strong sunlight, though. Don't know where you live. Here in Colorado, it is still pretty strong, but the angle is low. I do know if you fold the clothing and sit it in a drawer, or on a shelf, etc., the top of the bundle and the outsides of the folds will get darker. That is why it is important to periodically change up how the clothing is folded. Hope that helps. Wow that's super interesting and super informative. Thanks for being a member here! |
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Post by scooter on Jun 12, 2016 13:01:29 GMT -6
Salt and Pepper isn't so black and white, anymore.....  |
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Post by librarianbuckle on Jun 12, 2016 13:07:39 GMT -6
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Post by scooter on Jun 12, 2016 16:55:03 GMT -6
Haze burned off. Sun out, in full force. Almost dry.....  |
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Post by cassaruby on Jun 12, 2016 19:08:50 GMT -6
How much is a good amount to buy for 2 or 3 jackets or pants?
Is it best not to wash kakishibu items very often to keep the coating from going away?
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Post by DigDug on Jun 13, 2016 9:15:40 GMT -6
@scooter
Looks Fantastic!
Did you soak or brush it on?
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Post by scooter on Jun 13, 2016 16:29:05 GMT -6
@scooter Looks Fantastic! Did you soak or brush it on? Brushed. I quickly soaked the shirt, and let it air dry for a couple of hours, before applying. So as not to dilute the kakishibu, I didn't want it soaking wet. Leaving fabric dry, there is a tendency for the dye to soak in where you first place the brush, and thins out as you stroke. Leaving it damp seems to allow for less pooling, and more even coverage. I left it out for 2 - 3 more hours, after i took the pic. It darkened up some more. I've got it hanging again, now. More sun, and a couple of soaks are on the agenda. I'll take more pics, in about a week. |
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Post by DigDug on Jun 13, 2016 17:04:27 GMT -6
@scooter Looks Fantastic! Did you soak or brush it on? Brushed. I quickly soaked the shirt, and let it air dry for a couple of hours, before applying. So as not to dilute the kakishibu, I didn't want it soaking wet. Leaving fabric dry, there is a tendency for the dye to soak in where you first place the brush, and thins out as you stroke. Leaving it damp seems to allow for less pooling, and more even coverage. I left it out for 2 - 3 more hours, after i took the pic. It darkened up some more. I've got it hanging again, now. More sun, and a couple of soaks are on the agenda. I'll take more pics, in about a week. Keep us posted! I think I'd like to do it myself. I did soak a blue Chambrays but it didn't take to good. It was a weak solution left over. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 13, 2016 17:35:38 GMT -6
Brushed. I quickly soaked the shirt, and let it air dry for a couple of hours, before applying. So as not to dilute the kakishibu, I didn't want it soaking wet. Leaving fabric dry, there is a tendency for the dye to soak in where you first place the brush, and thins out as you stroke. Leaving it damp seems to allow for less pooling, and more even coverage. I left it out for 2 - 3 more hours, after i took the pic. It darkened up some more. I've got it hanging again, now. More sun, and a couple of soaks are on the agenda. I'll take more pics, in about a week. Keep us posted! I think I'd like to do it myself. I did soak a blue Chambrays but it didn't take to good. It was a weak solution left over. Will do. By all means, give it a go. I got the 50g bottle of powder from kakishibui. On both of my projects, I used 25g mixed with 1L of water. I don't know if I'd ever try using less. But, with the results I'm getting, I don't see the need to use more. There seems to be a sweet spot there. |
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Post by scooter on Jun 17, 2016 9:23:48 GMT -6
Beautiful weather here, for the next 3 days. I'll be rinsing and sunbathing the S&P each day. It'll be interesting to see just how dark it'll get. Here's a pre-rinse pic.....  IRL, it is a bit darker than this. |
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Post by DigDug on Jun 17, 2016 9:38:13 GMT -6
@scooter
Does it have a stiffness to it?
If so I'd think you'd get a nice comb affect/effect (could never get those strait).
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Come to think of it, what else gives good stains, well, wine!, citrus and ketchup. Go crazy!
