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Post by stinky on Oct 14, 2014 11:01:03 GMT -6
They should use a natural patch and dye it with vinegroon. Begone crappy black patches!
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Post by jeffrx on Oct 14, 2014 12:33:40 GMT -6
I've got to say, I love my indigo denim collection - BUT, my Gustin BlackXAqua seem to be the jeans that the general public likes the most. I am always getting positive comments on them, including from my wife. Even so, I prefer the indigos.
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Post by univibe88 on Oct 14, 2014 13:31:31 GMT -6
I love my Black2 Gustins. Icksey talking me into them. I've called them my "Black Okayamas" since I got them. I don't like BlackXBlack so the white weft is perfect for my liking. Yes!!! |
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Post by tim on Oct 16, 2014 4:08:57 GMT -6
I have a question to everyone owning the Black2:
Is the non contrast thread on the leg inside blue on yours, too?
Mine is from the first run and Gustin probably didn't know any better because it was one of their first black denims. But that is only speculation.
I'd be interested somehow if it was only mine, only the first batch or even all of them. I think it is a strange design idea if it was done intentionally.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 5:07:51 GMT -6
Mine are the same, and I think it looks fine.
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Post by tim on Oct 16, 2014 7:24:32 GMT -6
Yes it looks fine and is hardly noticeable anyway.
It just doesn't look like something Gustin would experiment with.
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Post by exophobe on Oct 16, 2014 10:11:48 GMT -6
I have a question to everyone owning the Black2: Is the non contrast thread on the leg inside blue on yours, too? Mine is from the first run and Gustin probably didn't know any better because it was one of their first black denims. But that is only speculation. I'd be interested somehow if it was only mine, only the first batch or even all of them. I think it is a strange design idea if it was done intentionally. That's a design flourish Gustin (seems to) use on all contrast stitching. Not a mistake, but done that way on purpose, like the blue across the back pockets holding the half-lining in place. I wish they kept those two things on all of them, contrast or tonal, but I've got enough tonal to accept that they're not doing that on purpose. |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 16, 2014 10:13:24 GMT -6
I've got to say, I love my indigo denim collection - BUT, my Gustin BlackXAqua seem to be the jeans that the general public likes the most. I am always getting positive comments on them, including from my wife. Even so, I prefer the indigos. you get those compliments cause they're the best ever. I'm forcing myself to wait six months before I soak or wash, but they're looking pretty sweet at this point. Could use them pulling in a bit since I'm shrinking, so I'll prolly try a warm-to-hot soak. and that will probably ruin them and make me sad. |
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Post by dbriel on Oct 29, 2014 17:53:22 GMT -6
I have had the Black2's 33 Slim for about a year, and they just keep getting better with age. I haven't experienced much fading, and they are holding their shape nicely without excess stretching. Highly recommend those. I had the Cone Blacks for about a month, then sold them. The quality just wasn't up to the B2's. Maybe they were just too light.
Recently was able to score a pair of the BlackxCoal 16oz 34 Slim on the Stock page, and haven't taken them off. The weight is bomber, and the starch is staying real crispy. Pretty sure these will be my winter denim go-tos. Love the look & feel of these.
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Post by Derek G on Oct 29, 2014 18:18:02 GMT -6
I'm the proud owner of the Black x Aqua also. Love them! I'll try and get some pics up tomorrow.
what I like about the different color wefts, is the pop of color against the black. I'll match the weft color with a same color T or sneakers.(I know some of you guys think that's too "matchy") I haven't learned how to post pics on here yet, so I'll put them on imgur.
I'm sold on the black 2 material, per Ickes rave reviews of them. I'm definitely looking to score a pair in that material
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Post by Tobesjones on Oct 29, 2014 18:22:27 GMT -6
I had the BlackXCoal and just recently sold them. They are a great pair, so solid, great creasing, tons of starch, and super stanky. I mean I am talking the worst sulfur smelling pair in the history of ever.
The black on black (or coal) just was a bit too much for me. Do miss them but just not hipster enough.
I did put the proceeds right back into my first Lawless pair with the 14.5 Kuroki Mills. Should be the cousin of the Black 2 (thanks for the confirm Ickes). Very excited to see how these turn out.
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Post by bugula on Oct 29, 2014 18:34:02 GMT -6
I'm the proud owner of the Black x Aqua also. Love them! i think these are a sorely underrated release. i got them in a size that was too large for me and had to let them go. grabbed some N&F green wefts but they're indigo warp and look nowhere near as cool as the blackxaquas. |
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Post by Derek G on Oct 29, 2014 18:34:45 GMT -6
I've got to say, I love my indigo denim collection - BUT, my Gustin BlackXAqua seem to be the jeans that the general public likes the most. I am always getting positive comments on them, including from my wife. Even so, I prefer the indigos. you get those compliments cause they're the best ever. I'm forcing myself to wait six months before I soak or wash, but they're looking pretty sweet at this point. Could use them pulling in a bit since I'm shrinking, so I'll prolly try a warm-to-hot soak. and that will probably ruin them and make me sad. Just wanted to chime in on the hot soak for shrink, as I've seen a couple of you mention it. A long while back, someone on the G board posted a great deal on Levi's STF. Knowing that our friend Ickes had alot of experience with them i asked his advice, and I used that same advice on my Grey Silks , "The Darks" and Super Lights...as they have all stretched to the point that they're too big. That advice was to soak them in the tub with as hot of water you can, then have pots of boiling water on the stove, and add the boiling water. This worked well for me, and it did not hurt the jeans at all. though the silks were a bit wrinkly. That went away after a few wears though. I even,,,,GASP...PUT THEM IN THE DRYER! It worked like a charm, but, alas, it was all for naught. They all stretched right back to being too big after about a week. So I may sell them, depending on if I can find a tailor that can take them in. That brings up another thought...from now on when dealing with Gustin, anything less than 12 oz, I will size down 1,,,,anything over 16 oz I will size up Hope this helps |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 29, 2014 22:01:20 GMT -6
I have had the Black2's 33 Slim for about a year, and they just keep getting better with age. I haven't experienced much fading, and they are holding their shape nicely without excess stretching. Highly recommend those. I had the Cone Blacks for about a month, then sold them. The quality just wasn't up to the B2's. Maybe they were just too light. Recently was able to score a pair of the BlackxCoal 16oz 34 Slim on the Stock page, and haven't taken them off. The weight is bomber, and the starch is staying real crispy. Pretty sure these will be my winter denim go-tos. Love the look & feel of these. I can't shake the sulphur smell on the black x coal. Did you soak them first? |
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Post by Derek G on Oct 29, 2014 22:15:01 GMT -6
LOL....just thought about it coal has sulphur in it...wonder if they actually use coal dust in the dye ha ha  |
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Post by dbriel on Oct 29, 2014 23:18:16 GMT -6
LOL....just thought about it coal has sulphur in it...wonder if they actually use coal dust in the dye ha ha No soak. Gonna ride these out. The smell hasn't bothered me at all. Almost 3 weeks in and that sulphur smell is a non-issue. that said, I'd rather have a sulphur stank than a Fukushima glow. #blackxlime |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 30, 2014 9:11:21 GMT -6
BLACK LOOMSTATES UP FOR SALE
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Post by ickes on Oct 30, 2014 10:20:32 GMT -6
Black Loomstates....meh....
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Post by wisdom on Oct 30, 2014 10:25:59 GMT -6
BLACK LOOMSTATES UP FOR SALE I've got credit to burn, stinky has me believing these are epic, and an iron modified kakishibu black-ish soak make these too good to pass up. Plus, doesn't hurt that they're tonal! |
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Post by stinky on Oct 30, 2014 10:41:29 GMT -6
The blue loomies are epic, and if this is the same basic fabric, these will be too.
How do you know they are iron modified kakishibu? I don't see that on the website.
Also, the model pics look like the jeans are unsoaked--they don't seem to exhibit the slubbiness yet.
I'm considering backing these.
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Post by ickes on Oct 30, 2014 10:51:53 GMT -6
The blue loomies are epic, and if this is the same basic fabric, these will be too. How do you know they are iron modified kakishibu? I don't see that on the website. Also, the model pics look like the jeans are unsoaked--they don't seem to exhibit the slubbiness yet. I'm considering backing these. The Loomstates are epic because they are Indigo and we all know how Indigo fades. These are black and black does not fade like Indigo. Dont get me wrong, the fabric looks beautiful on the Black Looms but it looks exactly like the Black 2s IMO, which I do own and absolutely love btw. The black looms are also tonal stitching and I prefer contrast on black denim. I dont see any point in the Black Looms at all. You're basically just buying a black denim that will be even more diffucult to get a good fit with because of Gs QC issues and the fact that they are Loomstate. It would be wiser and cheaper to just wait for the Black2s to return IMO. |
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Post by stinky on Oct 30, 2014 10:56:33 GMT -6
The blue loomies are epic, and if this is the same basic fabric, these will be too. How do you know they are iron modified kakishibu? I don't see that on the website. Also, the model pics look like the jeans are unsoaked--they don't seem to exhibit the slubbiness yet. I'm considering backing these. The Loomstates are epic because they are Indigo and we all know how Indigo fades. These are black and black does not fade like Indigo. Dont get me wrong, the fabric looks beautiful on the Black Looms but it looks exactly like the Black 2s IMO, which I do own and absolutely love btw. The black looms are also tonal stitching and I prefer contrast on black denim. I dont see any point in the Black Looms at all. You're basically just buying a black denim that will be even more diffucult to get a good fit with because of Gs QC issues and the fact that they are Loomstate. It would be wiser and cheaper to just wait for the Black2s to return IMO. Yeah, I've been waiting for the Black2s for a while per your recommendation. FTR, the description does say CONTRAST stitching, not tonal on the BLooms. |
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Post by wisdom on Oct 30, 2014 10:58:24 GMT -6
The blue loomies are epic, and if this is the same basic fabric, these will be too. How do you know they are iron modified kakishibu? I don't see that on the website. Also, the model pics look like the jeans are unsoaked--they don't seem to exhibit the slubbiness yet. I'm considering backing these. The Loomstates are epic because they are Indigo and we all know how Indigo fades. These are black and black does not fade like Indigo. Dont get me wrong, the fabric looks beautiful on the Black Looms but it looks exactly like the Black 2s IMO, which I do own and absolutely love btw. The black looms are also tonal stitching and I prefer contrast on black denim. I dont see any point in the Black Looms at all. You're basically just buying a black denim that will be even more diffucult to get a good fit with because of Gs QC issues and the fact that they are Loomstate. It would be wiser and cheaper to just wait for the Black2s to return IMO. My mistake.. I meant "Contrast" instead of "Tonal." The soak I was referring to is how I would consider soaking them when I receive them. I'm not sure I'll do that, though.. it'll really saturate the look. |
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Post by stinky on Oct 30, 2014 11:10:41 GMT -6
The Loomstates are epic because they are Indigo and we all know how Indigo fades. These are black and black does not fade like Indigo. Dont get me wrong, the fabric looks beautiful on the Black Looms but it looks exactly like the Black 2s IMO, which I do own and absolutely love btw. The black looms are also tonal stitching and I prefer contrast on black denim. I dont see any point in the Black Looms at all. You're basically just buying a black denim that will be even more diffucult to get a good fit with because of Gs QC issues and the fact that they are Loomstate. It would be wiser and cheaper to just wait for the Black2s to return IMO. My mistake.. I meant "Contrast" instead of "Tonal." The soak I was referring to is how I would consider soaking them when I receive them. I'm not sure I'll do that, though.. it'll really saturate the look. Yeah, I don't know if I would do a soak that would make them more like a blackxblack. A straight persimmon dye might look cool, though. ickes, you could always pair these with the chambray scarf . . . |
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Post by ickes on Oct 30, 2014 11:33:38 GMT -6
The Loomstates are epic because they are Indigo and we all know how Indigo fades. These are black and black does not fade like Indigo. Dont get me wrong, the fabric looks beautiful on the Black Looms but it looks exactly like the Black 2s IMO, which I do own and absolutely love btw. The black looms are also tonal stitching and I prefer contrast on black denim. I dont see any point in the Black Looms at all. You're basically just buying a black denim that will be even more diffucult to get a good fit with because of Gs QC issues and the fact that they are Loomstate. It would be wiser and cheaper to just wait for the Black2s to return IMO. Yeah, I've been waiting for the Black2s for a while per your recommendation. FTR, the description does say CONTRAST stitching, not tonal on the BLooms. ah.....ok I stand corrected, they are contrast stitching. Either way, I still don't see the value in black loomies, just my opinion. |
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