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Post by jackgordon on May 4, 2015 2:44:39 GMT -6
I've got 4 hours in these x016's. So far the break in has been easy. I can tell these may very well be my best fitting, which is what I was after. The rise is about an inch more then Gustins, makes bending/squatting at work easier. I didn't buy these for the complexity of the denim, more for the construction and the 16oz. But they are interesting and growing on me as far as the look and feel of the denim. Smooth, softish, subtle slub, almost looks fuzzy (like the Loomies) but its an illusion when I look down, looking strait at them they are not fuzzy but smooth. Kind of cool and something only the wearer may notice. You say they fit like somewhere between a Gustin slim and straight—I think that's just what I'm looking for. The Gustin straights fit me well but I wouldn't mind them a little slimmer toward the hem. When you say the rise is an inch more than the Gustins, is that the slim or straight you're talking about? The low rise is the one thing that's put me off trying Gustin's slim cut. I guess I could go off and compare size charts, but they don't give me a clear idea of how things will fit. |
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Post by DigDug on May 4, 2015 8:07:26 GMT -6
I've got 4 hours in these x016's. So far the break in has been easy. I can tell these may very well be my best fitting, which is what I was after. The rise is about an inch more then Gustins, makes bending/squatting at work easier. I didn't buy these for the complexity of the denim, more for the construction and the 16oz. But they are interesting and growing on me as far as the look and feel of the denim. Smooth, softish, subtle slub, almost looks fuzzy (like the Loomies) but its an illusion when I look down, looking strait at them they are not fuzzy but smooth. Kind of cool and something only the wearer may notice. You say they fit like somewhere between a Gustin slim and straight—I think that's just what I'm looking for. The Gustin straights fit me well but I wouldn't mind them a little slimmer toward the hem. When you say the rise is an inch more than the Gustins, is that the slim or straight you're talking about? The low rise is the one thing that's put me off trying Gustin's slim cut. I guess I could go off and compare size charts, but they don't give me a clear idea of how things will fit. I'll measure the rise (front and back) some time today. I only had one pair of straits (that I gave away, didn't like the bottom and wanted a tapered leg also). At first I also was a bit uncomfortable with a lower rise when I backed my first Gustin. Now I like the lower rise and feel like I'm wearing mommy jeans when I wear a higher rise. Just takes some time and allowing the jeans to break in. |
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Post by DigDug on May 4, 2015 9:30:45 GMT -6
jackgordon my Gustins are 38Slims and the RC x016 are 36 spikes (but are sewn up and posted on their fit guide as being 38"). I haven't gotten much stretch if any after 30 wears or so . Which I they say is due to the triple needle chain stitch used on the waist band. Front rise Gustin - 10.5". RC - 11.5" Back rise Gustin - 15.5". RC - 16.5 Thigh (2" down) Gustin - 12.75. RC - 13" Any other measurements you want let me know.
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Post by julian on May 4, 2015 14:39:30 GMT -6
Time to send the x016 back to be Hemed. I usually do a single cuff but on these I was Thinking of going with a small double cuff. Any thoughts? I kind of like the high water look, flashing my Red Winds. My Railcars are long enough to need a double-cuff and I'm glad they do. They suit it better than a single IMO. |
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Post by bentin on May 4, 2015 14:44:14 GMT -6
Agreed, I hotwashed the snot out of my straight Okis and while it helped the overall fit it took me from a double to single cuff, which I don't really like. I've debated seeing if I can figure out what the Singer sewing machine in my garage really does, or at least verifying that my health insurance works.
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Post by DigDug on May 18, 2015 13:38:24 GMT -6
I know all you guys have been anxiously waiting the return of my RailCar X016's from hemming and how I'm going to rock them. So here they are Hemmed with a single cuff.  I have to say that I may start to promote RailCar but at the same time I'm kind of glad RC is a little secret (more exclusive). I get that that they aren't for everyone. I mean, there are some who simply don't want the Best, American Made jeans (if that's you, nothing to see here. Move along) |
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Post by toolonginexile on May 18, 2015 20:17:28 GMT -6
Just shipped off a second pair of Gustin's to get tapered and hemmed at Railcar, 1st pair came out great so I have high hopes. I'm getting it done on the Hemp's and when I get them back I'm going to coat them with Sumi ink (inspiration: tateandyoko.com/news/focus-sumi-ink-selvedge/ ) Just curious. What type of measurements did you give for tapering..and did you go above or below the knee. .I have a gustin or two I'm debating a tapering with but never tapered any Jean. |
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Post by bclark on May 19, 2015 12:11:04 GMT -6
Just shipped off a second pair of Gustin's to get tapered and hemmed at Railcar, 1st pair came out great so I have high hopes. I'm getting it done on the Hemp's and when I get them back I'm going to coat them with Sumi ink (inspiration: tateandyoko.com/news/focus-sumi-ink-selvedge/ ) Just curious. What type of measurements did you give for tapering..and did you go above or below the knee. .I have a gustin or two I'm debating a tapering with but never tapered any Jean. Started at the thigh b/c it's my biggest issue with all of my slim G's. Knee and leg opening only changed 1/2 inch and 1/4 inch respectively but my BxB changed more than that because they came in bigger. So overall its going to be specific to each pair. Edit: 11 inch thigh (at crotch) 8 inch knee 7 inch leg opening |
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Post by beeranddenim on May 20, 2015 18:56:26 GMT -6
just got my RC back from hemming and 2" waist reduction. Spot on! I got size 34" at 50% off. Actual size was almost 36".
Great fit in thighs and top block but I have a narrower waist.
Now they fit perfect. And most of my denim is double cuff but I had these hemmed to a short stack or single cuff..
Can't wait to start breaking these in.
P.S. The leather patch was all messed up from a hot soak and they even replaced that.
Stay classy Railcar.
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Post by Winterland on May 21, 2015 0:18:29 GMT -6
just got my RC back from hemming and 2" waist reduction. Spot on! I got size 34" at 50% off. Actual size was almost 36". Great fit in thighs and top block but I have a narrower waist. Now they fit perfect. And most of my denim is double cuff but I had these hemmed to a short stack or single cuff.. Can't wait to start breaking these in. P.S. The leather patch was all messed up from a hot soak and they even replaced that. Stay classy Railcar. What was the cost for the alteration? |
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Post by beeranddenim on May 21, 2015 11:26:35 GMT -6
Downsizing was $45. They don't charge to hem their own product, otherwise hemming is $25.
So not cheap but I got these for $114 so I'm okay with my total cost.
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Post by bclark on May 28, 2015 13:36:40 GMT -6
Got my Hemps back today, they look great and the tailoring is definitely well done. I'll try to get pictures up shortly.
I don't think I'm going to coat them in the Sumi Ink though. After few test runs I can't get it consistently looking good, I've tried on a old pair and the Hemp hem scrap.
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Post by Marc on May 31, 2015 20:24:40 GMT -6
Thanks to DigDug, I started looking again at Railcar, particularly since they released the natural indigo with that patch. I've always wanted a pair of natural indigo (and my attempt with Gustin failed - twice - due to QC issues), so I ordered a pair of the X023 Spikes. They ended up too tight in the thighs and backside. So Railcar did up a pair of the X023 in their James fit for me as a special order. Took two weeks for them to make and ship them to me. Top notch construction and fit is near perfect. Yeah, they're not cheap, but it is so refreshing to deal with a competent, engaged, quality outfit. Couldn't be happier with the experience. |
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Post by DigDug on Jun 9, 2015 19:51:24 GMT -6
ickes if you like the IH633's cut check out the RC Spikes. I think the measurements are near exact. May want to add another brand to your denim portfolio. I loving the patch on the new natural indigos. Check those out (since you can and I can't. Damn devastitis and his 90 day no spend!!!)
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Post by brentkuz on Jun 9, 2015 20:01:56 GMT -6
I will check out railcar. 633 is a great fit.
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Post by ickes on Jun 9, 2015 20:50:40 GMT -6
ickes if you like the IH633's cut check out the RC Spikes. I think the measurements are near exact. May want to add another brand to your denim portfolio. I loving the patch on the new natural indigos. Check those out (since you can and I can't. Damn devastitis and his 90 day no spend!!!) The measuremens on the spikes do look good and are damn close to the IH 633. Only problem is that the waist to thigh ratio is a bit off. For them to fit my thighs I would need to get a waist size about 1 1/2" big... |
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Post by DigDug on Jun 9, 2015 21:19:14 GMT -6
ickes if you like the IH633's cut check out the RC Spikes. I think the measurements are near exact. May want to add another brand to your denim portfolio. I loving the patch on the new natural indigos. Check those out (since you can and I can't. Damn devastitis and his 90 day no spend!!!) The measuremens on the spikes do look good and are damn close to the IH 633. Only problem is that the waist to thigh ratio is a bit off. For them to fit my thighs I would need to get a waist size about 1 1/2" big... Gotcha, RC is a bit vanity sized. And Ill be sizing down on the IH633 to a 36 (no 37 "), which makes the numbers a bit more similar. How have you found the stretch on the IH (did you get the 21oz)? I'll need to get an 1.5" of stretch. |
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Post by brentkuz on Jun 10, 2015 6:10:03 GMT -6
I would be the same with railcar spikes fit. It's closer to the 666 than the 633. Thigh is pretty tight on the spikes. I would need to be a 36" in railcar for the thigh to fit but the waist to be. Looks like they won't work for me.
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Post by julian on Jun 10, 2015 7:43:07 GMT -6
I would be the same with railcar spikes fit. It's closer to the 666 than the 633. Thigh is pretty tight on the spikes. I would need to be a 36" in railcar for the thigh to fit but the waist to be. Looks like they won't work for me. Honestly, I have pair of Spikes and a pair of 666 (both tagged 32W) and they don't fit or look the same when on the body at all. The 666 is noticeably tighter in the thigh and also in the waist but wider from just below the knee down. Much as I love the IHs, there's just something about the fit and the fabric of my Spikes that makes me favour them. I think it's mainly the more streamlined knee to hem section. Construction wise, there's nothing between them - both as near perfect as anything could be. |
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Post by bentin on Jun 10, 2015 8:26:51 GMT -6
Are the IH and RC thigh measurements taken at the same spot? I recall thinking that the 633 and Spike were pretty darn close and that the 666 was closer to the RC Viper.
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Post by brentkuz on Jun 10, 2015 8:47:33 GMT -6
Not sure I never really looked into RC more than just the fit chart.
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Post by Marc on Jun 10, 2015 10:04:12 GMT -6
ickes if you like the IH633's cut check out the RC Spikes. I think the measurements are near exact. May want to add another brand to your denim portfolio. I loving the patch on the new natural indigos. Check those out (since you can and I can't. Damn devastitis and his 90 day no spend!!!) The measuremens on the spikes do look good and are damn close to the IH 633. Only problem is that the waist to thigh ratio is a bit off. For them to fit my thighs I would need to get a waist size about 1 1/2" big... They also have the james fit. The spikes didn't work for me for exactly the same reason (thighs too tight, waist too big), but they did up a pair of james for me and they're perfect. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 10, 2015 10:11:19 GMT -6
Are the IH and RC thigh measurements taken at the same spot? I recall thinking that the 633 and Spike were pretty darn close and that the 666 was closer to the RC Viper. Yeah they are taken at the same spot. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 10, 2015 10:11:41 GMT -6
The measuremens on the spikes do look good and are damn close to the IH 633. Only problem is that the waist to thigh ratio is a bit off. For them to fit my thighs I would need to get a waist size about 1 1/2" big... They also have the james fit. The spikes didn't work for me for exactly the same reason (thighs too tight, waist too big), but they did up a pair of james for me and they're perfect. I will check those out. Thanks Marc. |
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Post by ickes on Jun 10, 2015 10:14:58 GMT -6
James fit is closer on the thigh/waist ratio but then the rise is too high...lol....So far my best fits have been the IH633 and the ONI 517....I haven't been able to find simliar fits in other brands yet but I'm looking.
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