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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 28, 2016 10:38:21 GMT -6
I don't wanna wear synthetics. Don't like 'em. Thanks though, my man. And I always wanna look pretty. Sheesh. DUH. If I'm exercising, cotton is on vacation. It gets hot here and humid. Cotton is stupid in that weather. But so are chinos, carry on. If you're exercising in chinos, you're doing it wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 10:47:28 GMT -6
Got it. Technically it says "Cramerton Cotton Twill". Tricky bastards! So it could be made by anyone. Also stone washed. How about Buzz R? |
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Post by bentin on Jan 28, 2016 10:55:47 GMT -6
If I'm exercising, cotton is on vacation. It gets hot here and humid. Cotton is stupid in that weather. But so are chinos, carry on. If you're exercising in chinos, you're doing it wrong. Sometimes you just need pants you can wear in the rain. 70/30 is perfect. |
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Post by davelewis on Jan 28, 2016 11:02:23 GMT -6
Got it. Technically it says "Cramerton Cotton Twill". Tricky bastards! So it could be made by anyone. Also stone washed. How about Buzz R? I have both of the Duck Head, and BRs. I picked up a pair of the Duck Heads off e-bay last year, and for the $29 bucks, and free shipping, they were a steal. I wanted the khaki color, and they were out of my size, but picked up a pair of stone (off white). They are $135 retail from Duck Head direct, and feel they are overvalued at that price for sure. The Buzz Rickson chinos are heavier weight, better construction, and a definite step up IMO |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 28, 2016 11:22:03 GMT -6
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Post by nate001 on Jan 28, 2016 11:25:38 GMT -6
I am eagerly awaiting the restock of the cramerton selvedge twill chinos from Bravestar. Made and sourced in USA. I emailed Bravestar and the restock is supposed to happen in February. You can sign up on their site to receive an email when the restock happens. And only $89!! Others have mentioned Ciano. I wish he did twill too. I do have his 12oz ochre canvas chinos and they are awesome. Four-five month wait tho.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 28, 2016 11:33:53 GMT -6
I am eagerly awaiting the restock of the cramerton selvedge twill chinos from Bravestar. Made and sourced in USA. I emailed Bravestar and the restock is supposed to happen in February. You can sign up on their site to receive an email when the restock happens. And only $89!! Others have mentioned Ciano. I wish he did twill too. I do have his 12oz ochre canvas chinos and they are awesome. Four-five month wait tho. Oh, well hell. I'll just wait for that restock. I didn't know they were going to be restocked. Excellent. Yeah, I have the indigo and the ochre coming from Ciano also. And I have the desert tan and the brown canvas chinos from Gustin. And in case I somehow miss out on the restock, davelewis, do you think the Buzz Rickson material is reproduction Cramerton, or some other heavy twill? |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 28, 2016 12:00:27 GMT -6
I'm also curious about the made in the USA dockers K-1 Cramertons. If you can find a pair, those are supposedly pretty good.
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Post by davelewis on Jan 28, 2016 15:17:07 GMT -6
I am eagerly awaiting the restock of the cramerton selvedge twill chinos from Bravestar. Made and sourced in USA. I emailed Bravestar and the restock is supposed to happen in February. You can sign up on their site to receive an email when the restock happens. And only $89!! Others have mentioned Ciano. I wish he did twill too. I do have his 12oz ochre canvas chinos and they are awesome. Four-five month wait tho. I remember looking at those from Bravestar, and thought they would be worth a shot. Several months ago, I had discussed with Ciano, the possibility about sourcing some Cramerton, or like twill. He did show me a selvedge twill he had in brown, that was kind of like a herringbone, in look, and had a texture to it, but I opted to pass on it. He might still have some of that, and if interested, give him a call. I've got a few pairs of his duck chinos, and think they are great, especially with the choices you can make to them. |
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Post by davelewis on Jan 28, 2016 15:33:46 GMT -6
I am eagerly awaiting the restock of the cramerton selvedge twill chinos from Bravestar. Made and sourced in USA. I emailed Bravestar and the restock is supposed to happen in February. You can sign up on their site to receive an email when the restock happens. And only $89!! Others have mentioned Ciano. I wish he did twill too. I do have his 12oz ochre canvas chinos and they are awesome. Four-five month wait tho. Oh, well hell. I'll just wait for that restock. I didn't know they were going to be restocked. Excellent. Yeah, I have the indigo and the ochre coming from Ciano also. And I have the desert tan and the brown canvas chinos from Gustin. And in case I somehow miss out on the restock, davelewis , do you think the Buzz Rickson material is reproduction Cramerton, or some other heavy twill? I had the same question a while ago, and contacted Charlie at HP. He told me that the twill Buzz uses, is a repro of the material that they used back in the 40s, and they go through great expense to duplicate it, but didn't draw a relationship to Cramerton. While I'm sure there was some salesmanship involved, I have to say they are made with more attention to detail, are very substantial, and look and feel better than most any other modern chinos around. I would also add that the Buzz chinos are not slim fitting, by most standards, and a lot of us here wouldn't care for, but I like at least one pair of chinos, that just have that relaxed fit and feel to them, and they fit that bill in spades. They were around $85 dollars off of Rakuten, and was thinking of maybe picking up a pair of beige, to go with the khaki. |
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Post by nate001 on Jan 28, 2016 16:04:24 GMT -6
Grown and Sewn? I'm pretty much only MiUSA and this fits the bill. I don't have a pair, but there is a grey selvedge that has been calling my name for awhile. A little spendy.
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Post by davelewis on Jan 28, 2016 17:20:32 GMT -6
Grown and Sewn? I'm pretty much only MiUSA and this fits the bill. I don't have a pair, but there is a grey selvedge that has been calling my name for awhile. A little spendy. I consider myself pretty much a made in USA guy, and do my best to support US manufactured goods. That said, being inspired by some of my enabler buddies here, I have ventured a bit into made in Japan goods, and have found that when prudently shopped, I could find goods at a better price, and better quality, with most importance being quality. I tend to stick with heavyweight gear, and it seems that US shops have difficulty with this, so it forced me to gravitate elsewhere. |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 28, 2016 17:56:35 GMT -6
Grown and Sewn? I'm pretty much only MiUSA and this fits the bill. I don't have a pair, but there is a grey selvedge that has been calling my name for awhile. A little spendy. I consider myself pretty much a made in USA guy, and do my best to support US manufactured goods. That said, being inspired by some of my enabler buddies here, I have ventured a bit into made in Japan goods, and have found that when prudently shopped, I could find goods at a better price, and better quality, with most importance being quality. I tend to stick with heavyweight gear, and it seems that US shops have difficulty with this, so it forced me to gravitate elsewhere. While I normally wouldn't back Dockers, their rare K-1 Cramertons are fully MiUSA, which is why I'm interested in them. I also wanna track down those James Bond Quantum of Solace Levis 306 Sta Prests. Sharp. |
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Post by brentkuz on Jan 28, 2016 18:55:46 GMT -6
I'm really thinking about the buzz chinos in the slimmest fit they offer. $89 and they look great. Trying to hold back.
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Post by cianofarmer on Jan 28, 2016 20:59:40 GMT -6
I don't have a pair but I know Ciano is hard to beat for value and quality. Give them a call if there are any questions. www.cianofarmer.com/shop.html Looking for twill. Unfortunately, Ciano doesn't carry it. Thanks man! whiskeyriver we do have the selvage twill..always ask and we will find it for you..that goes for everyone. we just have not posted them on the web site because we have to handle current orders.... see attached 12oz JPN khaki twill  11oz Cone Mills INDIGOINDIGO twill  |
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Post by northcoast on Jan 28, 2016 23:28:27 GMT -6
Looking for twill. Unfortunately, Ciano doesn't carry it. Thanks man! whiskeyriver we do have the selvage twill..always ask and we will find it for you..that goes for everyone. we just have not posted them on the web site because we have to handle current orders.... see attached 12oz JPN khaki twill 11oz Cone Mills INDIGOINDIGO twill Thats fantastic CF. I'll be placing an order for the INDIGO. |
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Post by northcoast on Jan 28, 2016 23:30:14 GMT -6
I am eagerly awaiting the restock of the cramerton selvedge twill chinos from Bravestar. Made and sourced in USA. I emailed Bravestar and the restock is supposed to happen in February. You can sign up on their site to receive an email when the restock happens. And only $89!! Others have mentioned Ciano. I wish he did twill too. I do have his 12oz ochre canvas chinos and they are awesome. Four-five month wait tho. Thanks. Just got on their list and am close to ordering their IRONSIDE jean jacket. Finally a jean jacket that falls to the waistline.......... |
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Post by quick on Jan 29, 2016 0:13:58 GMT -6
interested in the selvedge khakis
how much?
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Post by nate001 on Jan 29, 2016 7:28:14 GMT -6
Grown and Sewn? I'm pretty much only MiUSA and this fits the bill. I don't have a pair, but there is a grey selvedge that has been calling my name for awhile. A little spendy. I consider myself pretty much a made in USA guy, and do my best to support US manufactured goods. That said, being inspired by some of my enabler buddies here, I have ventured a bit into made in Japan goods, and have found that when prudently shopped, I could find goods at a better price, and better quality, with most importance being quality. I tend to stick with heavyweight gear, and it seems that US shops have difficulty with this, so it forced me to gravitate elsewhere. Yea, I think it's pretty inevitable I will move to Japanese stuff at some point thanks to the abundant Kool-Aid dispensing and swilling here. |
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Post by gaseousclay on Jan 29, 2016 8:46:57 GMT -6
I consider myself pretty much a made in USA guy, and do my best to support US manufactured goods. That said, being inspired by some of my enabler buddies here, I have ventured a bit into made in Japan goods, and have found that when prudently shopped, I could find goods at a better price, and better quality, with most importance being quality. I tend to stick with heavyweight gear, and it seems that US shops have difficulty with this, so it forced me to gravitate elsewhere. Yea, I think it's pretty inevitable I will move to Japanese stuff at some point thanks to the abundant Kool-Aid dispensing and swilling here. My preferences are goods made in the US, Japan, Canada or England. It really depends on the product. I think Japanese made goods are at the top as far as quality goes, but most of the brands from Japan don't make bigger sizes to accomodate Westerners, probably because they fill a niche market. Also, a lot of the brands we like, like 3sixteen, Rogue Territory, Gustin, etc., all use fabrics from Japan. But, there are some American companies I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole, like Allen Edmonds. |
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Post by bentin on Jan 29, 2016 9:34:53 GMT -6
I like arbitrary hatred as much as the next guy (looking at you, buffalo plaid, VAT and crooked shirts) but why the AE hate? Decent GYW construction, some US finishing and Horween leather. For the money, there isn't really a good comparison. I've largely migrated on from buying new ones, but still have three pair that should last me to retirement.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Jan 29, 2016 9:39:43 GMT -6
Looking for twill. Unfortunately, Ciano doesn't carry it. Thanks man! whiskeyriver we do have the selvage twill..always ask and we will find it for you..that goes for everyone. we just have not posted them on the web site because we have to handle current orders.... see attached 12oz JPN khaki twill 11oz Cone Mills INDIGOINDIGO twill I'm interested in both! PM me the price, if you could! FWIW, the cone looks like canvas, not twill. I don't see twill lines. But I may be blind/stupid. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 10:01:23 GMT -6
The BR look pretty nice. Good thing I don't need khakis. Price on their site is $110 inc shipping, comp to rakuten.
The only thing killing it for me with Ciano is the wait time. Just can't do it. Too impatient.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 10:08:27 GMT -6
I like arbitrary hatred as much as the next guy (looking at you, buffalo plaid, VAT and crooked shirts) but why the AE hate? Decent GYW construction, some US finishing and Horween leather. For the money, there isn't really a good comparison. I've largely migrated on from buying new ones, but still have three pair that should last me to retirement. "Arbitrary hatred" lol. I saw a thread about AE production and the CEO joined in and was very open about their practices. It's adapt or die. Would people really rather see them close down? They employ Americans and make a good product. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2016 12:37:02 GMT -6
Grown and Sewn? I'm pretty much only MiUSA and this fits the bill. I don't have a pair, but there is a grey selvedge that has been calling my name for awhile. A little spendy. I consider myself pretty much a made in USA guy, and do my best to support US manufactured goods. That said, being inspired by some of my enabler buddies here, I have ventured a bit into made in Japan goods, and have found that when prudently shopped, I could find goods at a better price, and better quality, with most importance being quality. I tend to stick with heavyweight gear, and it seems that US shops have difficulty with this, so it forced me to gravitate elsewhere. Always looking for interesting brands, I've ventured into Chinese and now Indonesian. Just got a custom pair of black X black denim from Indonesia in 10 days for $100 total |
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