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Post by Dirty_Denim on Aug 4, 2015 18:20:17 GMT -6
Dirty_Denim - the fits look great. If you're sticking with those fits, would you mind posting up the measurements (or maybe just the delta between skinny and slim fits)? Also, they've been talked about recently, are those your Thursday diplomat boots? Yes they are my Thursdays. They are like slippers. So comfy Here are the measurements. Top buttoned with waist band aligned front and back. We will maybe tweak but not much Skinny Waist 18.75 Thigh 12.25 2inch from crotch Back rise 14.5 (This is correct) Knee 9 in Ankle 7.5 Hem 7 in Slim Waist 18.5in Thigh 12.25 Backrise 13.5 Knee 9in Ankle 8.5 Hem 8in |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Aug 4, 2015 18:24:41 GMT -6
These are very early samples. We dont have our branding done so to add a bit to the look i had these put on. Once we have our stamp I will def use leather but canvas will also be used in similar ways as these. We are also going to line the yoke with fabric just like u see on these
Oh and some of this fabric cost $24 for a 12 by 18in piece. Not skimming at all
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Post by exophobe on Aug 4, 2015 18:42:27 GMT -6
I am noticing my design details look to be a lil on the clean commercial side. WHat do u guys think? I know with certain denims we plan on making them look a bit more workwear related but these came out great in my eyes. The tags were a detail we thought would make for some cool looking jeans without changing angles of pockets or anything The arcuates look great, I think they might be cool as a tonal hit (as mentioned) or something along the lines of how gustin uses the blue on their contrast offerings. If you can do patches like that in leather I think they'll be nicer, since the fabric will stretch and tear a lot easier. I think they have a better chance for survival if the belt isn't run through them. getting @stevekas to employ his leather dying skills to make patches for you would also be cool. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Aug 4, 2015 19:08:40 GMT -6
I am noticing my design details look to be a lil on the clean commercial side. WHat do u guys think? I know with certain denims we plan on making them look a bit more workwear related but these came out great in my eyes. The tags were a detail we thought would make for some cool looking jeans without changing angles of pockets or anything The arcuates look great, I think they might be cool as a tonal hit (as mentioned) or something along the lines of how gustin uses the blue on their contrast offerings. If you can do patches like that in leather I think they'll be nicer, since the fabric will stretch and tear a lot easier. I think they have a better chance for survival if the belt isn't run through them. getting @stevekas to employ his leather dying skills to make patches for you would also be cool. We looked at leather today but not a place where u get deals at. Dying the leather indigo is ideally what i want but thats gonna take some doing. The canvas will eventually be used for certain things but will be sewn in to the waist band similar to what u would see on a vintage pair of jeans. We will also be using it for the pocket bags as thats what we really bought it for |
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Post by bentin on Aug 4, 2015 19:13:50 GMT -6
Maybe our celebrity forum leather worker @stevekas could set you up with some navy and olive (hint, hint) patches?
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 4, 2015 19:43:33 GMT -6
My only recommendation clone the 633 cut. Thanks.
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 4, 2015 19:59:50 GMT -6
Maybe our celebrity forum leather worker @stevekas could set you up with some navy and olive (hint, hint) patches? Shell patches? Hand forged unobtainium buttons? |
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Post by whiskeyriver on Aug 4, 2015 20:03:37 GMT -6
    Solid blue patch is the skinny Pattern patch is the slim I am a tagged 36 which measure 38. Both denims are Candiani 13 oz Selvedge The fit looks great, man!! EDIT: And LOVING the cut profiles. |
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Post by exophobe on Aug 4, 2015 20:04:15 GMT -6
Maybe our celebrity forum leather worker @stevekas could set you up with some navy and olive (hint, hint) patches? Shell patches? Hand forged unobtainium buttons? Not looking for shell, @stevekas does a hell of a job dying leather was my only thought behind it. If it's something the two of them can work out it'd make a cool story. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Aug 4, 2015 20:14:12 GMT -6
The skinnys look to have the correct measurements to allow for bigger fellers to wear em but also be prime for the slimmer guys who can def downsize on these if needed.
The slim straights are just about perfection. Really nice shape when on for sure.
I am having a short sleeve shirt made (sample) that will take a bit to make it into the lineup but its pretty cool looking. I am a big fan of eggcorn acorn shaped pockets so this will have some of that.
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Post by DigDug on Aug 4, 2015 20:33:42 GMT -6
Lol
eggcorn
Syllabification: egg·corn
Pronunciation: /ˈeɡkôrn/
Definition of eggcorn in English:
noun
A word or phrase that results from a mishearing or misinterpretation of another, an element of the original being substituted for one that sounds very similar or identical (e.g. tow the line instead of toe the line).
EXAMPLE SENTENCES
Did you mean Acorn pockets. Or did I misunderstand ?
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Aug 4, 2015 20:50:07 GMT -6
Lol eggcorn Syllabification: egg·corn Pronunciation: /ˈeɡkôrn/ Definition of eggcorn in English: noun A word or phrase that results from a mishearing or misinterpretation of another, an element of the original being substituted for one that sounds very similar or identical (e.g. tow the line instead of toe the line). EXAMPLE SENTENCES Did you mean Acorn pockets. Or did I misunderstand ? Good lord yes LMAO ACORN NOT EGG (HEAD) CORN LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 22:13:29 GMT -6
Hey Sal this all looks great! I just saw this thread for the first time today. Rise from those ashes, man! On indigo dyed leather, this blog post sets it up pretty well. The trick is to treat it right after the soaking so you don't get a dried up piece of blue bacon from reactions in the leather after the indigo dye. It's somthing I'm going to be playing with myself soon so I'll share anything I learn. japanesetextileworkshops.blogspot.com/2014/11/dyeing-leather-with-indigo.htmlPm'd you some other stuff too. |
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Post by Winterland on Aug 4, 2015 23:06:18 GMT -6
Dirty_Denim - the fits look great. If you're sticking with those fits, would you mind posting up the measurements (or maybe just the delta between skinny and slim fits)? Also, they've been talked about recently, are those your Thursday diplomat boots? Yes they are my Thursdays. They are like slippers. So comfy Here are the measurements. Top buttoned with waist band aligned front and back. We will maybe tweak but not much Skinny Waist 18.75 Thigh 12.25 2inch from crotch Back rise 14.5 (This is correct) Knee 9 in Ankle 7.5 Hem 7 in Slim Waist 18.5in Thigh 12.25 Backrise 13.5 Knee 9in Ankle 8.5 Hem 8in Great to things coming along. A couple notes. Back rise being lower on the slim vs skinny seems odd. It is nice to see front rise listed also at some point. Seems to be an important part of the fit. I'm a fan of natural leather patch and black sometimes for black fabric. Printing that doesn't come off when washed is important. Being able to run a belt through allows a cool leather patch to be seen. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Aug 4, 2015 23:12:31 GMT -6
I know i noticed that and thats why i mentioned "thats correct next to the skinny rise" I was thrown off on that as well. I measured it a few times to make sure . Its something ill point out when I am back in the shop. It actually makes the skinnies fit my body better so its the slims that may need a tweaking. It also could be that the skinnies are more of a tapered fit than a skinny but that will all be worked out.
Leather will come as well as branded labels and pocket bags. We have the ability to make anything but arent a brand just yet because of the branding being absent. Everything that comes out at this point will be early samples people typically never see but because i am a member here i will let u guys see some good and bad blunders lol. Lots of toying to do but this should be fun and educational for everyone on here. I will be as transparent as i can without crossing the line
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Post by ickes on Aug 4, 2015 23:36:54 GMT -6
Looking great Sal!
Just one thing I noticed other than the rise being lower on the slims as noted, but the thigh measurements are the exact same on the skinny and slim?
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Post by devastitis on Aug 5, 2015 0:18:53 GMT -6
Hey Sal this all looks great! I just saw this thread for the first time today. Rise from those ashes, man! On indigo dyed leather, this blog post sets it up pretty well. The trick is to treat it right after the soaking so you don't get a dried up piece of blue bacon from reactions in the leather after the indigo dye. It's somthing I'm going to be playing with myself soon so I'll share anything I learn.japanesetextileworkshops.blogspot.com/2014/11/dyeing-leather-with-indigo.htmlPm'd you some other stuff too. S&S has ruined me. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2015 1:18:23 GMT -6
I learned to lock the door.
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Post by julian on Aug 5, 2015 3:02:09 GMT -6
I am noticing my design details look to be a lil on the clean commercial side. WHat do u guys think? My view is that you're going down the right road with that approach and I do very much like the idea of using indigo thread for your back pocket stitching. In terms of the patch, something I've always liked as a differentiating touch that elevates pairs in my eyes is the use of a skin other than cowhide. If you can get hold of it at a reasonable price, Kudu leather would be a great option as I'm not aware of anyone else using that as a brand identifying feature and it has a distincitive texture and appearance. |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 5, 2015 3:55:55 GMT -6
First colab needs to be indigogene x selvedgestyle.
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Post by bugula on Aug 5, 2015 8:32:51 GMT -6
Sal, qq for you (congrats on making this happen!) - on the measurements, you've got the same thigh spec listed for both cuts. Is that correct? i buy based on thigh and slims usually have a slightly more relaxed fit than skinnies and the real difference in fit on both of these appears to be below the knee (aside from the back rise). if these were to go to market with these specs, i'd be out in the cold though i can wear slims in any other brand.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Aug 5, 2015 8:56:32 GMT -6
Sal, qq for you (congrats on making this happen!) - on the measurements, you've got the same thigh spec listed for both cuts. Is that correct? i buy based on thigh and slims usually have a slightly more relaxed fit than skinnies and the real difference in fit on both of these appears to be below the knee (aside from the back rise). if these were to go to market with these specs, i'd be out in the cold though i can wear slims in any other brand. These are our very 1st samples. Lots more to adjust before we even have something that will make it to market. Id say we are in the infant stage of becoming a brand so there will certainly be adjustments to fits. I should mention that it doesnt mean the skinny will have a shorter rise than the slims because thats actually something that will make for a unique fit. FOr instance the Nudie Thinn finns have a larger rise than their slim jims. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Aug 5, 2015 17:52:46 GMT -6
Ok had a brief talk about the skinny fit. The rise on those are sure to be longer than the slims so that is not a mistake. As of right now we do not have a set fit chart but we will release that prior to us going live. That will give people an idea of what they should but as well as allow u to ask questions on sizing. When I am ready i will ask the mods create a thread for me where u guys can discuss size questions
Oh and the skinny jeans will def have the belt loops moved a bit. If u notice the blue tag is to far over to the right so it will be similar to how the slims look
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Post by Derek G on Aug 5, 2015 18:44:51 GMT -6
@dirty_Denim , I remember in the VapenSteal thread sometime ago, you mentioned a husband and wife that were working for R.A., That were skilled. Are you going to utilize any of the people that worked for him? They did put out a quality product. Or will you sub out like G does? Just curious,It's alright if you'd rather not answer. The best of luck to you my friend, I think you're going to be alright  |
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Post by brentkuz on Aug 5, 2015 19:15:25 GMT -6
Pulling for a 633 or similar fit. 501 type.
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