lawless denim chino review...

[thomasss]

Hey moderators : as the review thread is full of non review comments etc... I thought, it could be a nice idea to create a thread specific for lawless denim chino.
If you don't think it is a good idea, feel free to move this thread in the good one.

Here is the review for that : (new site order #272, 3rd Nov 2014, sent 25 weeks later 26th april 2014, received 06th may 2015). I'm from France...
15.2 oz. Cone Selvedge Men's Chino
Chino Style: Reagan
Chino Fit: Straight Leg
Waist: 36, Inseam (inches): 35
Chino Buttons: Metal Button Gun Metal
Thread Color: Dark Green
Jeans Fly: Button Fly
Pocket Liner: Pink houndstooth Canvas

I wanted to compare to the pictures online but i just realize that chinos are not anymore on option on lawless site...
For the jeans, the only option is the $69 jeans.

I changed the size from 35 to 36 and they made the change (it was the time when sal was in charge of the CS !!!) and very happy with that.
It was a little bit large first but after a warm soak, it feels better. I wear my jeans larger than some of you and in a straight fit...

I wanted to change the inseam too (from 35 to 34) 3-4 month ago but sal was not able to do it as they print the order and could not change it !!!
I would prefer the 34 inseam as i usually simple cuff my pants but it is ok for 35... i double cuff.

here is the bath water after the soak, i think it bleeds as usual...


The fit pics
I think that the belt loops are a little bit too close to the button fly.
I really love the chino front pockets : bigger and easier to get my hands in. They are so much usefull than my gustin or ciano farmer 5 pockets jeans ones...




Tha back : i really like the green stiching, it is a little bit funky but not too much. But i think with this dark color, we don't see a lot the pockets design. I like the pockets design so yellow/orange stiching would be better for that. i don't know... i'm 50/50 for the green stiching...
There is a little brown patch (that was not on the lawless site picture) but it is no problem for me. After a soak, the "LD&Co" write on the patch is almost invisible...


the famous Pink houndstooth Canvas Of course, LD contacted to ask me for the canvas change... No, just kidding !!!


The stiching are pretty straight and good in general. The button holes are not perfect and this is a not so straight stich !!!


The cuff stich is regular and not chainstich : i don't know why, i prefer chainstich but with the cuff, we can't see it. I don't know if it is specific to chinos.


It is not a triple inseam stich but a regular double one. I thought it would be a triple one like on the 5 pockets model. I would prefer triple, it is a little more original. Once again, i don't know if double stiching inseam is specific for chinos...


Overall, i'm pretty happy with this chino. It is my first cone mills pant. It is prety different from the japan fabrics i'm more used to. I'm very impatient to see how it will fade.

[overdrawn]

Thx thomasss for taking the time to show pics and write this review. The Chino looks good on ya, the denim will show some signs of wear easily in the coming months.

I for one ordered the same type in Feb 2015 with an order # in the mid 2.000 ... so I will have to wait some more years before I can wear my Chino´s. :deadhorse:

Keep us posted on the developmenet!

overdRAWn

[chrisdoth]

Yes, thanks for the write up, I have an order for these in the 900s and the great news is I've heard they will ship in 30-45 days

That said they look good for the price, this style was the reason I ordered from Lawless in the first place a shame they've dropped them if that's the case, not that I suppose I'd ever want to go through this again.

[exophobe]

Jun 2, 2015 5:44:13 GMT -6 chrisdoth said:

Yes, thanks for the write up, I have an order for these in the 900s and the great news is I've heard they will ship in 30-45 days

That said they look good for the price, this style was the reason I ordered from Lawless in the first place a shame they've dropped them if that's the case, not that I suppose I'd ever want to go through this again.

For the prices paid during the initial 50% off sales, the quality is pretty exceptional, honestly. Something easily comparable to Gustin for $40 is more than worth it. Where it's not worth it is in the entire experience otherwise, which is proving to be far more valuable than the monetary savings.

If they clear all the backlog in (let's say) 60 days and stick the landing with the rtw relaunch, then they might recover from this, but there is a lot of work needed in all other aspects of the business besides production -- most companies in their sector ship same day, two weeks to put a package in the mail is far from normal turnaround for a company their size. With the standard hemming service (next to go?) they are afforded some slack, but not as much as they're taking, given the quality of customer interaction and communication.

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Jun 2, 2015 8:12:00 GMT -6 exophobe said:

Jun 2, 2015 5:44:13 GMT -6 chrisdoth said:

Yes, thanks for the write up, I have an order for these in the 900s and the great news is I've heard they will ship in 30-45 days

That said they look good for the price, this style was the reason I ordered from Lawless in the first place a shame they've dropped them if that's the case, not that I suppose I'd ever want to go through this again.

For the prices paid during the initial 50% off sales, the quality is pretty exceptional, honestly. Something easily comparable to Gustin for $40 is more than worth it. Where it's not worth it is in the entire experience otherwise, which is proving to be far more valuable than the monetary savings.

If they clear all the backlog in (let's say) 60 days and stick the landing with the rtw relaunch, then they might recover from this, but there is a lot of work needed in all other aspects of the business besides production -- most companies in their sector ship same day, two weeks to put a package in the mail is far from normal turnaround for a company their size. With the standard hemming service (next to go?) they are afforded some slack, but not as much as they're taking, given the quality of customer interaction and communication.

Made an order on Bodybuilding.com on Sunday. Got shipment notice a few hours later, and received the package on Monday.  That's the type of service everyone needs to strive for.

[chrisdoth]

I can't think of anything I've ordered in the fifteen or so years I've been shopping online that has been quite so chaotic as this. It not just the delays though, but the whole attitude they seem to have that puts me off buying from them again. I get they are probably feeling somewhat put upon with everyone chasing them all the time for orders but at the end of the day they chose to keep taking orders they knew they had no chance of being able to deliver.

And, given their current backlog and production times to date, I can see no realistic way they can expect to clear the, going from the order numbers I've seen people chasing, 2500 or so orders outstanding. Of course they may have no intention of doing so and just be playing for time again, I have no idea and that wouldn't surprise me at all. I would love to be proven wrong though.

[overdrawn]

Might be true, they are playing for time. If it was´nt the 50% off sale I jumped on, I would have been more ****ed for not getting any notice but read on several forea what they deliver, where they are now regarding order numbers and just count when my order will be done ... in around 2,5 years, what a shame.