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Post by Winterland on Oct 27, 2014 23:13:26 GMT -6
The "General" area isn't subdivided by well, or at all. @untucked. I am not understanding what you are saying. |
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Post by Winterland on Oct 27, 2014 23:15:36 GMT -6
Great question as I couldnt figure out what was wrong with it. not understanding what you are saying. |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 27, 2014 23:17:09 GMT -6
Winterland -- I think what we're missing is the "Community" thread, but I've gotten used to not having one. Part of what I like about the Gustin Community thread is that it is just a stream of consciousness type "hanging out with friends" type discussion. I don't know that it needs to be added, but it was somewhat disorienting when I first came over here.
It might be worth a discussion to some up with ways to implement that sort of thing without it functionally destroying the message board, or maybe just a note in the "check here first" thread on the home page.
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 27, 2014 23:25:16 GMT -6
Great question as I couldnt figure out what was wrong with it. not understanding what you are saying. My comment was because I was clicking on the general link before the sub link came out to the right that says general chat again. Chalk my comment up to me being a dope. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Oct 27, 2014 23:39:17 GMT -6
Geez Winterland nobody was trying to take a shot at u.
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Post by Winterland on Oct 27, 2014 23:44:17 GMT -6
Winterland -- I think what we're missing is the "Community" thread, but I've gotten used to not having one. Part of what I like about the Gustin Community thread is that it is just a stream of consciousness type "hanging out with friends" type discussion. I don't know that it needs to be added, but it was somewhat disorienting when I first came over here. It might be worth a discussion to some up with ways to implement that sort of thing without it functionally destroying the message board, or maybe just a note in the "check here first" thread on the home page. The Gustin forum is not a regular forum format. It is the equivalent to a thread here. We could make a random or whatever is on your mind type of thread in the General forum if that is what is wanted. It would do the same thing. The only negative is if there is a good discussion about one of the topics we have it won't be as easy to find for people who were not there when it happened. Overall the G forum format is not good for creating information for others to come on and use. Without having to read through hundreds of posts not related to what they might be looking for. There is a search function though so it is not all bad. |
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Post by Winterland on Oct 27, 2014 23:47:10 GMT -6
Geez Winterland nobody was trying to take a shot at u. I never thought that anyone was. I simply did not understand what you were saying/asking and was asking for clarification so I could help. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2014 23:47:27 GMT -6
My experiences with forums I'd that the "General" area would be subdivided further: Automobiles... Fitness... B!Tches/Gripes/Complaints...
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Post by Winterland on Oct 27, 2014 23:53:33 GMT -6
My experiences with forums I'd that the "General" area would be subdivided further: Automobiles... Fitness... B!Tches/Gripes/Complaints... Go for it. Maybe you don't realize that most all the threads were started by a member there. You can start one about automobiles if you want. We just don't want to start something that already has a thread covering it. Also should be not clothes related. Does this make sense? |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 0:06:35 GMT -6
I specifically was talking about more rooms. "SELVEDGE" is divided to Gustin, Lawless, Other and Retail Merchants. "GARB" is broken down to Outerwear, Footwear and Accessories. "BARGAIN" is broken down to Buy, Sell, etc... "GENERAL" could be easily divided for more structure, I.e. Sports, Automobiles, Politics, Other Hobbies, and RANDOM. As of now, we have "GENERAL" leading to General Chat
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Post by exophobe on Oct 28, 2014 0:10:20 GMT -6
I think what he's saying is "you make your own destiny".  |
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Post by Winterland on Oct 28, 2014 0:31:12 GMT -6
I specifically was talking about more rooms. "SELVEDGE" is divided to Gustin, Lawless, Other and Retail Merchants. "GARB" is broken down to Outerwear, Footwear and Accessories. "BARGAIN" is broken down to Buy, Sell, etc... "GENERAL" could be easily divided for more structure, I.e. Sports, Automobiles, Politics, Other Hobbies, and RANDOM. As of now, we have "GENERAL" leading to General Chat Ok I think I understand what you are saying. No the general forum is just threads named with the topic. The Selvedge Catagory and other clothes related Categories are split into separate Boards as they relate to Clothes and Style which is the main purpose of this forum. You started this gustinfriends.proboards.com/thread/150/thriftingStart more if you think it will be something members will use. There is no way we could possibly split it up into different Boards. There would be an infinite amount of them that would need to be made. It would be a mess. It is not necessary. I hope this helps. I am wore out of explaining things tonight. Must be something in the air tonight. Full moon?  |
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Post by exophobe on Oct 28, 2014 0:45:27 GMT -6
I like this "infinite amount of threads" idea, can you elaborate?  |
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Post by ickes on Oct 28, 2014 1:14:16 GMT -6
I worry that a general, random, gustin community type thread could kill this forum. It was fun at G but for this forum it would detrimental imo. Useful information would get buried..lost among all the posts throughout the day. I like the current set up here. It's much easier to log on and view all the new comments I missed throughout the day and reply to each one accordingly. With the G community format it is nearly impossible at times to keep up and reply to everyone's comments.
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Post by bugula on Oct 28, 2014 4:43:13 GMT -6
it's also a totally different format. this is a forum. what you all are referencing is a chat room.
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Post by Old26 on Oct 28, 2014 9:16:43 GMT -6
Does this board have a "general" discussion thread, that people actually use? I looked at the "general" topic, and it's still subdivided into 100 threads. Where do I go to just "talk", ffs? People will post where they post. Unless there's some major reason to move a thread, we'll let people do their thing. At Gustin/Community, it's just one long thread. Forums pretty much died. Running one of these things is not easy, so we're letting it go for a while to see what happens. At some point, we can try to tighten it up and see if there's something we can do to make it flow better for folks. So far, it's been working well. If the general area isn't used, we can't force that - or rather, we won't force it. |
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Post by wisdom on Oct 28, 2014 9:26:35 GMT -6
Does this board have a "general" discussion thread, that people actually use? I looked at the "general" topic, and it's still subdivided into 100 threads. Where do I go to just "talk", ffs? People will post where they post. Unless there's some major reason to move a thread, we'll let people do their thing. At Gustin/Community, it's just one long thread. Forums pretty much died. Running one of these things is not easy, so we're letting it go for a while to see what happens. At some point, we can try to tighten it up and see if there's something we can do to make it flow better for folks. So far, it's been working well. If the general area isn't used, we can't force that - or rather, we won't force it. To be honest, I default to clicking "Recent Posts" when I log in.. responses end up attached to the original thread. I navigate the forums when I want to start a thread and categorize it properly. If I'm looking for something, I usually use the search function. I navigate the forum categories on rare occasions when I'm just browsing. |
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Post by Old26 on Oct 28, 2014 9:29:38 GMT -6
On every forum that supports it, I use the recent posts option as well. Takes care of most of my needs, although sometimes I forget that the threads are unique and can post something where it would be better elsewhere. Just keep in mind the thread topic when posting - not much we can do about drift, but it's best to TRY and keep things on target for those seeking info.
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 28, 2014 11:23:57 GMT -6
I'll float a suggestion based on the setup at a baseball geek site I've frequented for over a decade. It has two main arenas of discussion.
1. A rolling list of links to baseball news and other related articles, each with its own thread for comments and responses. The conversation there is usually focused on the subject material linked, but it can and does wander.
2. A daily thread called The Lounge in the forums section of the site. This is for freewheeling, stream of consciousness style chattery about pretty much anything at all.
This division of leisure works pretty well in practice. It keeps the discussion in the baseball threads mostly focused on baseball, and if you just want to shoot the shit about whatever's on your mind there's a place for that too. I think something similar could work well here.
Basically, Part #1 is already set up; instead of baseball threads we have, uh, threads threads. No need to fuss with that.
As for Part #2, I get the sense that the General board is intended to soak up the off-topic stuff. That's fine, but at present we don't really have the membership necessary to sustain lively activity in multiple off-topic threads in there. That's also fine, but I'd suggest creating a "Lounge" style thread on the General board (to be refreshed monthly, or perhaps weekly depending on the velocity it generates - we don't currently have enough active members to need a new Lounge thread every day) because that is most members' comfort zone from the Gustin site.
I think this would cut down on the off-topic threads on the General board that kind of linger around with only a handful of posts from time to time. Hopefully centralizing them to start off with will generate more conversation if most of the members are checking in on the Lounge whenever they're visiting here. Also, if in the course of Lounging a particular off-topic topic really starts to take off and needs its own space, then someone can take upon themselves to go make a separate thread for it.
What do you guys think?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 11:47:37 GMT -6
I'll float a suggestion based on the setup at a baseball geek site I've frequented for over a decade. It has two main arenas of discussion. 1. A rolling list of links to baseball news and other related articles, each with its own thread for comments and responses. The conversation there is usually focused on the subject material linked, but it can and does wander. 2. A daily thread called The Lounge in the forums section of the site. This is for freewheeling, stream of consciousness style chattery about pretty much anything at all. This division of leisure works pretty well in practice. It keeps the discussion in the baseball threads mostly focused on baseball, and if you just want to shoot the shit about whatever's on your mind there's a place for that too. I think something similar could work well here. Basically, Part #1 is already set up; instead of baseball threads we have, uh, threads threads. No need to fuss with that. As for Part #2, I get the sense that the General board is intended to soak up the off-topic stuff. That's fine, but at present we don't really have the membership necessary to sustain lively activity in multiple off-topic threads in there. That's also fine, but I'd suggest creating a "Lounge" style thread on the General board (to be refreshed monthly, or perhaps weekly depending on the velocity it generates - we don't currently have enough active members to need a new Lounge thread every day) because that is most members' comfort zone from the Gustin site. I think this would cut down on the off-topic threads on the General board that kind of linger around with only a handful of posts from time to time. Hopefully centralizing them to start off with will generate more conversation if most of the members are checking in on the Lounge whenever they're visiting here. Also, if in the course of Lounging a particular off-topic topic really starts to take off and needs its own space, then someone can take upon themselves to go make a separate thread for it. What do you guys think? my fear of having a lounge sort of thread is that for sake of convenience (laziness), things don't get posted into proper threads and end up either a nightmare for mods to move stuff, or just buried and lost. similar to no one using the topics/forums on the G site, rather just posting everything to the live stream. |
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Post by ickes on Oct 28, 2014 11:54:05 GMT -6
@david; completely agree
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 28, 2014 12:23:42 GMT -6
I get that, but are there really that many topics on the General board that need their own thread? There are about 30 threads on there right now, and only 1/3rd of those have reached double-digits in replies. I mean, if someone's coming here looking for a vape-ing discussion or birthday notices, then there's an app a thread for that. Woo. I guess I see that sort of stuff getting just as buried when the General board grows to several pages if every nano-niche topic gets its own thread every time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 12:36:21 GMT -6
I get that, but are there really that many topics on the General board that need their own thread? There are about 30 threads on there right now, and only 1/3rd of those have reached double-digits in replies. I mean, if someone's coming here looking for a vape-ing discussion or birthday notices, then there's an app a thread for that. Woo. I guess I see that sort of stuff getting just as buried when the General board grows to several pages if every nano-niche topic gets its own thread every time. valid point. i guess i'm thinking more along the lines of being able to find something down the road. if a year down the road i'm looking for a juicy sewing tip, and recall that there was a discussion about sewing at one point it should be easier to find it with a search on thread title containing 'sewing' than in the body of the post...especially since that's a really common word likely to return a plethora of hits. |
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Post by Mattbert on Oct 28, 2014 12:39:05 GMT -6
I get that, but are there really that many topics on the General board that need their own thread? There are about 30 threads on there right now, and only 1/3rd of those have reached double-digits in replies. I mean, if someone's coming here looking for a vape-ing discussion or birthday notices, then there's an app a thread for that. Woo. I guess I see that sort of stuff getting just as buried when the General board grows to several pages if every nano-niche topic gets its own thread every time. valid point. i guess i'm thinking more along the lines of being able to find something down the road. if a year down the road i'm looking for a juicy sewing tip, and recall that there was a discussion about sewing at one point it should be easier to find it with a search on thread title containing 'sewing' than in the body of the post...especially since that's a really common word likely to return a plethora of hits. Also a fair point. But then again, if you spot something in the stream of consciousness that you think should be preserved elsewhere, there's nothing stopping you or anyone else from starting a "Sewing Tips" thread or a "DIY" thread for crafts, clothing, other projects, etc. |
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Post by Derek G on Oct 28, 2014 16:03:02 GMT -6
What I do when I jump on the site is: scroll down the home page, looking to the right, to see if anything has been posted on that board since the last time I was on. when i go into the board, I look to the right to see what threads have been replied to since the last time i was on. I rarely miss new posts this way. Hope this makes sense, and helps someone. If you go into the general chat board, you can start a new thread about anything you want...though I see the point of others ie: there are currently 2 music threads. Also if we could delete our own threads, that don't get responses, that would be great...for example, the one I started on the beard and moustache championships...It has been viewed, but no responses, I would delete it if I could. EDIT: no starting posts about religion or politics...Don't make me sic Mr Randal on you  |
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