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Post by exophobe on Mar 13, 2015 19:05:26 GMT -6
It must wear like chain mail. Yeah I had roman sew together 10 9.5oz chambray shirts together. Brahs it's motorcycle safety wear. boy. That's gonna take forever to sew. No complaining for you!  You'll also realize how ridiculous that would be when you get the thing. That and the Monster Twill are fighting for control of the closet. |
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Post by DigDug on Mar 15, 2015 20:02:13 GMT -6
I see that the 24 is still available. Either they'll be a lot made or it's not getting backed as enthusiastically.
And we need a good nick name for these suckers.
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Post by DigDug on Mar 15, 2015 21:11:04 GMT -6
Looks like only 19 24oz jeans and only 5 24oz jackets have sold...  Might be too much hate/criticism around stopping people from backing. I sure hope these start picking up. Maybe we should talk about them else wear as well to get the conversation going, but it's difficult with not even a good fabric sample shot of the 24oz. However, what we do know is Supima cotton means: - super durable: lasts about 40% longer than regular cotton - finer fiber - super soft - holds dye better - fades to a rich hue - less pilling - overall more wearable - list goes on.... Also, Roman confirmed with me that he is using 100% Supima cotton! Did Roman give you those #'s? I'm not backing them (I have just to much invested with LD). But for the 50% off its a good deal. If you have the will to stick it out. |
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Post by exophobe on Mar 15, 2015 21:32:05 GMT -6
Looks like only 19 24oz jeans and only 5 24oz jackets have sold... Might be too much hate/criticism around stopping people from backing. I sure hope these start picking up. Maybe we should talk about them else wear as well to get the conversation going, but it's difficult with not even a good fabric sample shot of the 24oz. However, what we do know is Supima cotton means: - super durable: lasts about 40% longer than regular cotton - finer fiber - super soft - holds dye better - fades to a rich hue - less pilling - overall more wearable - list goes on.... Also, Roman confirmed with me that he is using 100% Supima cotton! Did Roman give you those #'s? I'm not backing them (I have just to much invested with LD). But for the 50% off its a good deal. If you have the will to stick it out. The count started at 1000, and it shows the number remaining on the store. I'm not sure if the jacket also started at 1000, I haven't looked at it. |
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Post by DigDug on Mar 15, 2015 21:39:51 GMT -6
To me, it seems Roman is using these as a self made KS for the new American Selvedge Co. To get his loom up and running. 1000 pairs to me doesn't seem that exclusive.
He's got a long way to go to get to 1000 maybe by Sept they'll get funded.
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Post by davelewis on Mar 15, 2015 22:41:57 GMT -6
I certainly can understand why they are not selling out quickly. LD is struggling with extreme backlog, and now delving into the denim making business is not going to help, supima or not. I think it would be cool of LD to be able to pull this off, but I would have to take the other side of this trade.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2015 23:52:30 GMT -6
I see that the 24 is still available. Either they'll be a lot made or it's not getting backed as enthusiastically. And we need a good nick name for these suckers. Vapordenim |
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Post by drstrange on Mar 16, 2015 3:09:39 GMT -6
Looks like only 19 24oz jeans and only 5 24oz jackets have sold... Might be too much hate/criticism around stopping people from backing. I sure hope these start picking up. Maybe we should talk about them else wear as well to get the conversation going, but it's difficult with not even a good fabric sample shot of the 24oz. ... Also, Roman confirmed with me that he is using 100% Supima cotton! Well, if I have a client who hasn't paid his last bill and comes back with new problems for me to solve, first thing I'd do is to ask for a hefty advance. Only once that get's in I'll start working ... It's a bit similar here: as long as my order open now for 19 weeks (of which as Griffin (?) rightly pointed out 2 weeks were public holidays ... doesn't change much for me though) has not made it's way to the Alps, I'm staying put on any new orders, as tempting these may sound ... also right now Roman's word is not necessarily the gospel (and yes this is entirely personal perception and I might be doing him wrong) |
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Post by doctorcowboy on Mar 16, 2015 7:48:36 GMT -6
Did Roman give you those #'s? I'm not backing them (I have just to much invested with LD). But for the 50% off its a good deal. If you have the will to stick it out. The count started at 1000, and it shows the number remaining on the store. I'm not sure if the jacket also started at 1000, I haven't looked at it. When I looked at the store page last week (before the jacket was posted) I could swear that the remaining number of pairs of jeans was at 1453. I figured that they started off at 1500. Did they rejigger the numbers once the jacket was posted? |
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Post by DigDug on Mar 16, 2015 8:46:19 GMT -6
The count started at 1000, and it shows the number remaining on the store. I'm not sure if the jacket also started at 1000, I haven't looked at it. When I looked at the store page last week (before the jacket was posted) I could swear that the remaining number of pairs of jeans was at 1453. I figured that they started off at 1500. Did they rejigger the numbers once the jacket was posted? Not sure but that would make sense. At this point if those numbers are correct Roman will have to Rejigger more then just numbers. Alittle to much hype. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 8:53:59 GMT -6
or jerry rig
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Post by jdtmn on Mar 16, 2015 10:33:07 GMT -6
When I looked at the store page last week (before the jacket was posted) I could swear that the remaining number of pairs of jeans was at 1453. I figured that they started off at 1500. Did they rejigger the numbers once the jacket was posted? Not sure but that would make sense. At this point if those numbers are correct Roman will have to Rejigger more then just numbers. Alittle to much hype. 50% off sale lurking? That's the issue they may have. An unwillingness to buy at full price knowing a discount is right around the corner (coupled with the backlog of course) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 10:39:24 GMT -6
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Post by ickes on Mar 16, 2015 10:40:16 GMT -6
Not sure but that would make sense. At this point if those numbers are correct Roman will have to Rejigger more then just numbers. Alittle to much hype. 50% off sale lurking? That's the issue they may have. An unwillingness to buy at full price knowing a discount is right around the corner (coupled with the backlog of course) Yeah, and then there's the fact that we HAVEN'T SEEN THE FREAKING FABRIC. Seriously, wtf is up with that? Am I supposed to get a good look at the fabric by looking at the pic that is in the first post on this thread?? Cause I can't...I don't know what the hell I'm looking at honestly. How are you going to put up a jean for sale without even posting pics of the fabric? I would rather spend 50 more bucks and buy a heavy pair of jeans from a more established Japanese brand that knows what they are doing. |
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Post by matt on Mar 16, 2015 10:44:56 GMT -6
jdtmn is 100% accurate. We're too conditioned to the "impending sale". It's not a bad thing considering we're a niche group who probably pays a little too much attention to ins and outs of these companies. But that's where Roman needs to decide if he wants to undercut the market and make every denim basically $50 or keep the sales a little more exclusive until the production speed is improved. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but even with my "5 year KS discount" I'm still sitting tight until there's a sale in most instances (production speed improvement notwithstanding). Why pay full price or close to it?
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Post by davelewis on Mar 16, 2015 10:47:22 GMT -6
50% off sale lurking? That's the issue they may have. An unwillingness to buy at full price knowing a discount is right around the corner (coupled with the backlog of course) Yeah, and then there's the fact that we HAVEN'T SEEN THE FREAKING FABRIC. Seriously, wtf is up with that? Am I supposed to get a good look at the fabric by looking at the pic that is in the first post on this thread?? Cause I can't...I don't know what the hell I'm looking at honestly. How are you going to put up a jean for sale without even posting pics of the fabric? I would rather spend 50 more bucks and buy a heavy pair of jeans from a more established Japanese brand that knows what they are doing. Exactly! Even if they are able to pull this off, who is going to do the sewing, a bunch of new trainees? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 10:55:50 GMT -6
jdtmn is 100% accurate. We're too conditioned to the "impending sale". It's not a bad thing considering we're a niche group who probably pays a little too much attention to ins and outs of these companies. But that's where Roman needs to decide if he wants to undercut the market and make every denim basically $50 or keep the sales a little more exclusive until the production speed is improved. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but even with my "5 year KS discount" I'm still sitting tight until there's a sale in most instances (production speed improvement notwithstanding). Why pay full price or close to it? All discussion of delays etc aside... This is a crucial point you make, matt. I too have the KS 5 year discount but if I didn't have it, I'd wait for a sale based on previous company patterns. I think LD have devalued their brand with too many sales. They'll do better in the long run if they avoid any sales for a while. As for the Supima ghost pants, I opted in out of pure curiousity. Who knows what will come to pass. |
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Post by variable on Mar 16, 2015 11:20:46 GMT -6
As for the Supima ghost pants, I opted in out of pure curiousity. Who knows what will come to pass. Is that the cuff thing that goes up?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 11:52:15 GMT -6
Not sure but that would make sense. At this point if those numbers are correct Roman will have to Rejigger more then just numbers. Alittle to much hype. 50% off sale lurking? That's the issue they may have. An unwillingness to buy at full price knowing a discount is right around the corner (coupled with the backlog of course) Even if it's not, I don't understand how you can justify buying any for full price from LD. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2015 12:13:06 GMT -6
jdtmn is 100% accurate. We're too conditioned to the "impending sale". It's not a bad thing considering we're a niche group who probably pays a little too much attention to ins and outs of these companies. But that's where Roman needs to decide if he wants to undercut the market and make every denim basically $50 or keep the sales a little more exclusive until the production speed is improved. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but even with my "5 year KS discount" I'm still sitting tight until there's a sale in most instances (production speed improvement notwithstanding). Why pay full price or close to it? All discussion of delays etc aside... This is a crucial point you make, matt. I too have the KS 5 year discount but if I didn't have it, I'd wait for a sale based on previous company patterns. I think LD have devalued their brand with too many sales. They'll do better in the long run if they avoid any sales for a while. As for the Supima ghost pants, I opted in out of pure curiousity. Who knows what will come to pass. I don't think the sales devalued the brand as much as the delays, and the products that do show up aren't always spot on in quality. Many companies kickoff their businesses with big deals to bring the customers in. Once the businesses show that they make quality items, then people will be more willing to pay for them, sale or no sale. But LD did big sale after big sale, with quality being hit or miss, and the delays being insufferable. LD dropped the ball on all fronts, so their products are no longer feasibly worth full price. |
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Post by blacktower on Mar 17, 2015 20:17:53 GMT -6
jdtmn is 100% accurate. We're too conditioned to the "impending sale". It's not a bad thing considering we're a niche group who probably pays a little too much attention to ins and outs of these companies. But that's where Roman needs to decide if he wants to undercut the market and make every denim basically $50 or keep the sales a little more exclusive until the production speed is improved. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but even with my "5 year KS discount" I'm still sitting tight until there's a sale in most instances (production speed improvement notwithstanding). Why pay full price or close to it? The only reason I would ever consider ordering from LD is inexpensive beater denim, i.e. I have the 50% for the five years deal. I had requested a refund for my KS denim, and the denim miraculously shipped the next day. I placed two subsequent orders due to the discount and Sal's presence, but recently requested cancellation and reimbursement because, frankly, LD is inexpensive but it's not a premium brand and never will be for many different reasons. I am not interested in denim shirts, and their denim selection is average, so the only appeal is low prices due to my discount. Waiting 8 months for beater denim just seems odd to me... As for the Supima, can't say I am interested in either the cotton or heavy denim in general, but as Ickes pointed out, it is rather comical that a sample has not been posted. |
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Post by koganator on Mar 18, 2015 6:32:20 GMT -6
Since I have a KS discount I kind of want to gamble on this. I've never owned a pair of jeans in this weight class before as they're always been out of my price range and this seems like a great chance to bag a pair at a decent price (even though i'll most likely be waiting for it for half a year). I usually wear slim jeans, but since these are so heavy I was thinking of going regular to increase aeration and comfort. What fit and sizing would those of you with super heavyweight experience recommend for these jeans in relation to the way you buy your normal pair's of jeans?
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Post by wisdom on Mar 18, 2015 7:10:31 GMT -6
According to LD, they compensate for fabric thickness, so you don't need to factor that stuff into your size selection.
Without the KS discount the price isn't too far off from stuff talked about over on the Rakuten thread.
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Post by koganator on Mar 18, 2015 8:18:56 GMT -6
According to LD, they compensate for fabric thickness, so you don't need to factor that stuff into your size selection. Without the KS discount the price isn't too far off from stuff talked about over on the Rakuten thread. Agreed, not worth 150 and a 6 month wait, scoring a pair of momotaros or sugar canes on rakutan would be a superior choice in that price range. |
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Post by bigblack on Mar 18, 2015 8:22:23 GMT -6
According to LD, they compensate for fabric thickness, so you don't need to factor that stuff into your size selection. Without the KS discount the price isn't too far off from stuff talked about over on the Rakuten thread. This only hold true for jeans. For jackets its a different story. No other brand currently sells 24 oz outerwear hence why i made the risk for a 24 oz type II |
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Might be too much hate/criticism around stopping people from backing. I sure hope these start picking up. Maybe we should talk about them else wear as well to get the conversation going, but it's difficult with not even a good fabric sample shot of the 24oz. 
