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Post by bugula on Dec 23, 2014 19:01:36 GMT -6
...kinda surprised this hadn't been a topic yet (G sizing in a general sense, not what I'm about to ask below).
Ok, please travel with me to a place that I like to refer to as...The Idiot Zone (but please retain your intelligence so that you can answer my question).
Gustin. I fit fine in a 36 slim but there's a good inch of space in the waist which of course increases with wear. There's also a good deal of extra material in the upper/inner thighs which gives me a consistent camel toe. So what do I do? I size down to a 35 and what happens? I can't even get the things buttoned. They barely come up my hips and there's a good 2" that the top button needs to travel in order to button. I've had a similar issue with other brands/fits...is this is a rise issue as I would have figured that sizing down an 1" would have fixed my fit issues with G (to top it off, some G 35s fit fine but the majority don't). Is the thigh the measurement to concern myself with vs. the rise? Do I go with 1/4" down instead of the full 1/2" from 36 to 35?
Please oh wise travelers, educate me as to what the problem is so that I can stop this vicious cycle and learn how to fit myself. And I'm fine with the realization that G's slim fit isn't for me and I'll just have to clear out my closet and move along.
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Post by jray on Dec 23, 2014 20:27:12 GMT -6
Bugala -I can't be certain about what I'm about to say but I suspect it's a bunch of places that are causing problems. My 33 slims fit me snug equally all the way down to the knees and then stretch out to perfection. It sounds like this may just not be the fit for you. If you're like me, the straights aren't tapered enough so that may not work for you.
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Post by stinky on Dec 23, 2014 20:29:31 GMT -6
So . . . . camel toe on a guy is a bad thing?
(asking for a friend)
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Post by brentkuz on Dec 23, 2014 20:33:30 GMT -6
Yeah it's a struggle. I have a 36" waist but 25" thighs and 17.5" calves. I was getting 36slim which ended up being tight in the legs. A few sewed up larger than others and I've been fine. For heavyweight denim and silk blends I went 37slim. And they are perfect without stress on the waist they don't stretch.
Hopefully I'll drop some body fat and tighten up a bit.
I will say Gustin measures OD not ID so on thick denim it can make a difference.
Have you thought about going straight and getting them tapered? I won't go straight fit because on the 36'a the leg opening is huge. Smaller sizes looks fine but the larger don't seem right.
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Post by bugula on Dec 23, 2014 20:35:25 GMT -6
Bugala -I can't be certain about what I'm about to say but I suspect it's a bunch of places that are causing problems. My 33 slims fit me snug equally all the way down to the knees and then stretch out to perfection. It sounds like this may just not be the fit for you. If you're like me, the straights aren't tapered enough so that may not work for you. Yep, the taper's what I need out of a slim - straights just have too much material flapping in the wind. Other slim tapers work well for me from top block on down. Beginning to think you're right. So . . . . camel toe on a guy is a bad thing? (asking for a friend) I'd say it depends on which circles you travel in. |
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Post by bugula on Dec 23, 2014 20:36:45 GMT -6
Have you thought about going straight and getting them tapered? I won't go straight fit because on the 36'a the leg opening is huge. Smaller sizes looks fine but the larger don't seem right. Nah - not worth the hassle when there other brands that fit as is. Just finding it strange the more I wear these 36s, the more extra sag they get in that top block.  Your issue's the same as mine. In their fit pick, a straight doesn't look much different than the slim when you check out the calf area but I guess in the 34/35 range, there's just too much extra material. Guessing it's a mix of rise and thigh (probably more thigh) - where some slims are super slim and others are just right. Just trying to figure out which measurements to hone in on when shopping as waist is apparently not it. |
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Post by DigDug on Dec 23, 2014 20:45:56 GMT -6
What is the measurement of another brand (like your best fitting levis and which cut in Levis do you like?). I find that a pair of slims sit lower on the hips, and there for have a slightly different size then a straight.
Also (kind of personal) but what kind of underwear do you sport? I found it Very helpfull to go from boxers to boxer briefs (its worth up grading to a decent pair).
Also are your Gustin slims measuring up consistent? I've ordered 38" slims and have recieved 36.5 - 40". my 14oz Zim's do what your talking about (bunch up around the belt and thigh) because they came to me at 39.5".
Or it may be that you have Big thighs (cycling legs?). So you need big thighs but a tapered waist (and like a tapered leg).
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Post by bugula on Dec 23, 2014 20:52:07 GMT -6
Right now, the RgT Stantons are fitting me the best and I use them as a benchmark for other pairs but find that to still be a crapshoot.
I wear the boxer briefs, so thankfully no crotch bunchin'.
For the G's measuring up consistently...in the past, hell no. But the past half dozen that have come in are exactly the same (guess QC is in full effect these days). I have a pair of 35s that fit like 36s and a pair of 34s that fit like 35s but yeah, all of the newer releases are on spec.
I definitely have larger thighs...cycling and running. my thighs measure at 24" but 12.5" is as low as I can go in fit (though I'd imagine the tenth of an inch on the G 35s isn't the cause of the disparity in east meeting west when buttoning the waist).
Thanks for the answers/help guys. It's sounding like find something that works and stick to it and the G fit might not work.
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Post by jamesr on Dec 24, 2014 11:40:32 GMT -6
I originally wore a 36 Slim but have lost weight (around maybe 30 lbs at this point). The 36 is huge on me. Sized down to a 35 Slim. Right out of the bag they are pretty loose (can take them off without unbuttoning if I don't wear a belt). Have a pair of 34 Slim on the way now (American 16ers). Hoping they fit. On a related note, anyone want a few pairs of 36 Slims?  |
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Post by Ambassador on Sept 29, 2017 4:36:30 GMT -6
Don't find any other thread about sizing.
So this is the missing part of Gustin jeans sizechart - the backrise.
29 Slim 13
30 Slim 13.25
31 Slim 13.5
32 Slim 13.75
33 Slim 14
34 Slim 14.25
35 Slim 14.5
36 Slim 14.75
37 Slim 15
38 Slim 15.25
40 Slim 15.75
29 Straight 14
30 Straight 14.25
31 Straight 14.5
32 Straight 14.75
33 Straight 15
34 Straight 15.25
35 Straight 15.5
36 Straight 15.75
37 Straight 16
38 Straight 16.25
40 Straight 16.75
29 Skinny 12.75
30 Skinny 13
31 Skinny 13.25
32 Skinny 13.5
33 Skinny 13.75
34 Skinny 14
35 Skinny 14.25
36 Skinny 14.5
37 Skinny 15
38 Skinny 15.25
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Post by northcoast on Oct 31, 2017 15:51:50 GMT -6
Super frustrated here with Gustin.
THey moved their XXL from a 50 to a 48.5 which they have characterized as a "necessary move".
Who the hell has shirts that small in the chest at the XXL level other than them?
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Post by scooter on Oct 31, 2017 16:30:05 GMT -6
Super frustrated here with Gustin. THey moved their XXL from a 50 to a 48.5 which they have characterized as a "necessary move". Who the hell has shirts that small in the chest at the XXL level other than them? They did it with all of their sizes. XXL classic was 49.5, slim was 47.5. They did away with the size variations, and 48.5 sits right in the middle of both. IH sizing for XXL often lands around 24.0 - 24.2. I've got 3 IH XXLs that specced that way. I've also got an Epaulet oxford XXL that was specced even smaller(48). That was a couple of years ago. Their current chart sits at 21 for large, 22 for XL. I can only surmise XXL would be 23. Needless to say, I'm not taking a chance with Epaulet, again. |
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Post by northcoast on Oct 31, 2017 18:52:39 GMT -6
Super frustrated here with Gustin. THey moved their XXL from a 50 to a 48.5 which they have characterized as a "necessary move". Who the hell has shirts that small in the chest at the XXL level other than them? They did it with all of their sizes. XXL classic was 49.5, slim was 47.5. They did away with the size variations, and 48.5 sits right in the middle of both. IH sizing for XXL often lands around 24.0 - 24.2. I've got 3 IH XXLs that specced that way. I've also got an Epaulet oxford XXL that was specced even smaller(48). That was a couple of years ago. Their current chart sits at 21 for large, 22 for XL. I can only surmise XXL would be 23. Needless to say, I'm not taking a chance with Epaulet, again. WEll IH IMO is *really* 1 size up for your normal size. It's like extreme reverse vanity sizing. I"m a XXXL in IH. Epaulet makes NO big sizes and they love the small shoulders which drive me crazy. So yeah, at least IH makes my size, Gustin no longer does, and Freenote cut my size out as well. Hello more MiC TS! |
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Post by nate001 on Oct 31, 2017 19:06:37 GMT -6
They did it with all of their sizes. XXL classic was 49.5, slim was 47.5. They did away with the size variations, and 48.5 sits right in the middle of both. IH sizing for XXL often lands around 24.0 - 24.2. I've got 3 IH XXLs that specced that way. I've also got an Epaulet oxford XXL that was specced even smaller(48). That was a couple of years ago. Their current chart sits at 21 for large, 22 for XL. I can only surmise XXL would be 23. Needless to say, I'm not taking a chance with Epaulet, again. WEll IH IMO is *really* 1 size up for your normal size. It's like extreme reverse vanity sizing. I"m a XXXL in IH. Epaulet makes NO big sizes and they love the small shoulders which drive me crazy. So yeah, at least IH makes my size, Gustin no longer does, and Freenote cut my size out as well. Hello more MiC TS! sounds like you need to put in an order with ratio!! |
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Post by northcoast on Oct 31, 2017 19:40:24 GMT -6
sounds like you need to put in an order with ratio!! Yeah, I have been avoiding it, mostly because I'm not that into most of their fabrics. But they would fit. Also been holding off on Gitman Vintage because I don't want to pay $200 for basics. On the plus side, PBJ started making size 6's and the brand Portuguese Flannel XXL fits me well. But the MiUSA stuff is going small on me. |
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Post by DigDug on Oct 31, 2017 20:12:22 GMT -6
I'm now an XXL.
I don't consider myself a Big Guy but I guess by most of these small online shops I am.
Marshalls and TJMaxx now carry up to xxxxl.
I guess the population is just Getting bigger/fatter
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Post by northcoast on Oct 31, 2017 21:07:28 GMT -6
Sure the population is getting bigger, so reduce the baseline size even smaller thus further reducing your customer base.
Well played jagazzez.
From what I understand, vanity sizing is making smaller sizes BIGGER. So who the hell is clamoring for making standard sizes smaller?
OTOH they could never get their spec sizing right so I guess going with 1 pattern per size vs. 2 or 3 *may* be the impetus for this whole thing.
Becoming a leader in *slim* shirting..........not a great way to expand market share in the USA. Pun intended.
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Post by DigDug on Feb 3, 2018 21:12:57 GMT -6
Wow haven't had to think About sizing on an order for a long time.
I've backed the Indigo x Indigo's and not sure how these may shrink or stretch.
Im thinking of going down to a 37" to get a little more tailored look.
Any input on how these sewed up, shrink, stretch?
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Post by northcoast on Feb 3, 2018 22:16:11 GMT -6
Wow haven't had to think About sizing on an order for a long time. I've backed the Indigo x Indigo's and not sure how these may shrink or stretch. Im thinking of going down to a 37" to get a little more tailored look. Any input on how these sewed up, shrink, stretch? I thought these sewed up a little smaller than other pairs I have from G and did not get much shrink or stretch. I'd stay with your normal size. I have thought about sizing down on Gustins and my Brave Stars but I'm not all hot on the idea of STRETCHING as it seems to me it's easier to take in a waist then let it out. That being said, I may try it one of these days. In the interim, I'm likely going to send several pairs of mine to CF in the Summer and have them add cinch backs one them. I love me some cinch back and it means I dont have to wear a belt. |
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Post by I was REX on Feb 4, 2018 7:18:38 GMT -6
Wow haven't had to think About sizing on an order for a long time. I've backed the Indigo x Indigo's and not sure how these may shrink or stretch. Im thinking of going down to a 37" to get a little more tailored look. Any input on how these sewed up, shrink, stretch? I remember, during the olden days...you led rallies at the gate of Castle Gustin! Demanding that they make a 37 for the people! You were victories. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. |
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Post by DigDug on Feb 4, 2018 7:58:57 GMT -6
Wow haven't had to think About sizing on an order for a long time. I've backed the Indigo x Indigo's and not sure how these may shrink or stretch. Im thinking of going down to a 37" to get a little more tailored look. Any input on how these sewed up, shrink, stretch? I remember, during the olden days...you led rallies at the gate of Castle Gustin! Demanding that they make a 37 for the people! You were victories. Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Yes, We United together for a year or more on that Campaign. I did order a size 37 (Japan 17's). But those sewed up under spec. I think I'll go with the 37's to see if I can't get my pants from slipping down |
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Post by I was REX on Feb 4, 2018 8:33:02 GMT -6
I think I'll go with the 37's to see if I can't get my pants from slipping down I always just assumed it is better to go bigger...lord knows we all have enough belts to hold our pants up by now. Before all of this, I had one belt for jeans. Now I have many awesome leather belts...and then reverted back to a military web style belt. Ugh. |
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