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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 16:25:17 GMT -6
I just posted the photos of my Gustin work shirt on the G's work shirt thread. That shirt is a mess. The sizes are off from the chart and two of the buttons totally came loose and one more is going to be soon. The two shirt scopes look totally different and the selvege run off look flat out stupid. What I will do is eat the cost and just learned my lessons and move on from G. If I ever decide to buy another one from G and it comes out exactly like that, it is my fxxxing fault since I should know better.
When I read people thread about complaining G's sizes, it is no difference that I hear from my friends whining about their partners. If my friend mentioned the problem to his/her partner for 9 months and the partner still doesn't think it is a real problem and repeating doing the same shit, I ask my friend to get out of the relationship. If my friend decides to stuck with it, that is totally fine but accept the other partner's shortcoming and stop the whining. Pick one or the other. Life too short and pick one for god's sake.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 16:47:00 GMT -6
Sorry but if G doesn't agree sizing is a problem after 6-9 months of us shouting and whinning about it on it's own forum, it makes no sense to still buy it and then complain about the size issue. People either buy the G items and if size is a problem, just accept it becasuse you should know that will/can happened when you hit that buy button. Or just don't buy it and move on. The worst is stuck in the middle. Know full well that there is a decent chance the size will be a problem. Then when the sizing is actually an issue, they get all work up about it. G doesn't put that person in a poor situation about the sizing, the person who hit the buy button did. End of the day, life is too short and move on and don't put yourself in unpleasant/ stressful situation. Take your own responsbility and take back the control. And if no one tells Gustin that their orders are coming in wrong, then they have no reason to believe they're not. Either way, I'm not gonna tell bugula he's f!@ked, because I don't believe he is unless he's actually measured wrong -- in which case I'd like him to know. When given the opportunity to make it right, oftentimes Gustin has. The contract one "signs" with Gustin when they back it is that the product will be the size they ordered, so this should not be an inherent risk with buying from them, as it is in Gustin's side of the contract. Indicating that I, as a customer, should take responsibility for a poor or improperly sized garment is asinine. Every garment I've received since the Josh Gustin QC announcement has been on spec, so I have no reason to believe that it's not fixed, other than well, mostly your complaints, just like you apparently have no reason to believe it's fixed, other than my (and others) indications it has. I've never heard of Gustin refusing to accept a return for something that came in off-spec, however I have heard of them refusing a refund. So to indicate that it's hopeless for bugula to keep track of it isn't productive, as you know, more than most, how important that information could be for him as the rest of his clothing is delivered. People are still complaining about the pocket bags in Gustin jeans (just read that on StyleForum today), when they've been 6-8oz white canvas since about June of this year (my cone blue x blacks had the old pocket bags, the black x aqua and everything since had the heavier ones). So I'm also not sure how many of the QC issues are people ordering stuff off ebay that was the product of the previous issues. Now, I wish that Gustin would say "hey, we changed those back in July, now we use 7oz canvas", but instead their attituce is to fix it and let the product speak for itself -- this is a product of not recognizing how public opinion shapes the reputation of a brand, but we obviously can't force them to learn that lesson, cause we tried and failed as a group to do that. My point here is this, if you've given up on the brand, that's fine, but that doesn't give you license to indicate anyone that hasn't is refusing to take responsibility as a consumer. If you've truly given up on them, then I don't understand why you care if other people haven't. By your same token, life is too short to continue harping on things you've given up on. You must be kidding that G doesn't heard from us about the sizing has been screwed up. WE HAVE BEEN TELLING THEM FOR THE LAST NINE MONTHS ON GUSTIN'S FORUM ABOUT IT. There are also individual old timers telling them exactly that. If you read Cody's answer on this forum LAST WEEK, this is his quote about the question about QC: "3. I'm probably in the the absolute best position to take the pulse of our customer base as a whole. I hear your comment, but sometimes comments like yours frustrate me. Frankly, our quality level is really good. If it wasn't, we wouldn't even be here. I try to stay focused on the facts in my job and I know how the business is doing and what the vast majority of our customers are saying. I feel good with where we're at and that the whole team is always watching it." The girlfriend is NOT going to change. Just accept it and pick what you want to do. Stop keep telling her to change because she doesn't think it is a problem after you said the same thing for the last nine months. She thinks it is a problem you created in your mind and the problem doesn't fxxxing exist. People can only control it's own action. Try not to tell others to change theirs. Just accept the fact that forcing other to accept your fact is counter productive. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 9, 2014 17:11:23 GMT -6
You must be kidding that G doesn't heard from us about the sizing has been screwed up. WE HAVE BEEN TELLING THEM FOR THE LAST NINE MONTHS ON GUSTIN'S FORUM ABOUT IT. There are also individual old timers telling them exactly that. If you read Cody's answer on this forum LAST WEEK, this is his quote about the question about QC: "3. I'm probably in the the absolute best position to take the pulse of our customer base as a whole. I hear your comment, but sometimes comments like yours frustrate me. Frankly, our quality level is really good. If it wasn't, we wouldn't even be here. I try to stay focused on the facts in my job and I know how the business is doing and what the vast majority of our customers are saying. I feel good with where we're at and that the whole team is always watching it." The girlfriend is NOT going to change. Just accept it and pick what you want to do. Stop keep telling her to change because she doesn't think it is a problem after you said the same thing for the last nine months. She thinks it is a problem you created in your mind and the problem doesn't fxxxing exist. People can only control it's own action. Try not to tell others to change theirs. Just accept the fact that forcing other to accept your fact is counter productive. There were complaints for three months. and then they issued a statement to their customers in June apologizing for the lax QC, and announced things were changing. That indicates that the only point at which this could have been resolved is starting with shipments arriving in the beginning of September. Any workshirts pending right now are something that was ordered before anyone had one. Everything else is still able to change sizes, so you're indicating that anyone that receives a shirt should have known better. This shirt, according to Gustin is coming out of an entirely different sew-shop, so these shirts are the first indication of how this product is going to turn out. I'm worried, but at the same time, I'm not worried about the pairs of jeans I've got underway with Gustin because I'm 5/5 for sizing on orders since the QC announcement. This means that, with 3-4 pairs of jeans in the hopper, I have a vested interest in bugula's experience. If you've written Gustin off completely, just contact them and ask for a refund since you have no faith in their ability to deliver, and break up with her, as you keep suggesting. If you want Gustin to address it, then do so publicly on StyleForum or reddit, since that's where you'll find them -- and you'll hit a much broader audience than here, and they'll either have it deleted, ignore it, or address it. This is starting to feel like I'm targeting you, so I'm going to let it go. I just took offense at you indicating it's worthless for anyone to care. We know that Gustin has no interest in what's going on in their forum, and are working to end it, so the futility was actually in attempting to get them to acknowledge it on their forum for the last nine months. Either way, they seem to have birthed a proboards baby, and we have a pretty cool forum going, so you win some, you lose some -- but lets leave that other shit elsewhere and wish for the best for everyone, since we seem to be getting mixed messages right now as to whether QC is actually resolved. I just don't want this to become the place where everyone is afraid to say what they're ordering (yeah I'm getting the Japan Shine!) or who they're getting it from cause it unleashes the wolves -- like the other boards that led us here. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 17:11:48 GMT -6
Waist sizes need to be measured in gustimeters. They're slightly longer or shorter than inches. Lmao |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 17:35:00 GMT -6
You must be kidding that G doesn't heard from us about the sizing has been screwed up. WE HAVE BEEN TELLING THEM FOR THE LAST NINE MONTHS ON GUSTIN'S FORUM ABOUT IT. There are also individual old timers telling them exactly that. If you read Cody's answer on this forum LAST WEEK, this is his quote about the question about QC: "3. I'm probably in the the absolute best position to take the pulse of our customer base as a whole. I hear your comment, but sometimes comments like yours frustrate me. Frankly, our quality level is really good. If it wasn't, we wouldn't even be here. I try to stay focused on the facts in my job and I know how the business is doing and what the vast majority of our customers are saying. I feel good with where we're at and that the whole team is always watching it." The girlfriend is NOT going to change. Just accept it and pick what you want to do. Stop keep telling her to change because she doesn't think it is a problem after you said the same thing for the last nine months. She thinks it is a problem you created in your mind and the problem doesn't fxxxing exist. People can only control it's own action. Try not to tell others to change theirs. Just accept the fact that forcing other to accept your fact is counter productive. There were complaints for three months. and then they issued a statement to their customers in June apologizing for the lax QC, and announced things were changing. That indicates that the only point at which this could have been resolved is starting with shipments arriving in the beginning of September. Any workshirts pending right now are something that was ordered before anyone had one. Everything else is still able to change sizes, so you're indicating that anyone that receives a shirt should have known better. This shirt, according to Gustin is coming out of an entirely different sew-shop, so these shirts are the first indication of how this product is going to turn out. I'm worried, but at the same time, I'm not worried about the pairs of jeans I've got underway with Gustin because I'm 5/5 for sizing on orders since the QC announcement. This means that, with 3-4 pairs of jeans in the hopper, I have a vested interest in bugula's experience. If you've written Gustin off completely, just contact them and ask for a refund since you have no faith in their ability to deliver, and break up with her, as you keep suggesting. If you want Gustin to address it, then do so publicly on StyleForum or reddit, since that's where you'll find them -- and you'll hit a much broader audience than here, and they'll either have it deleted, ignore it, or address it. This is starting to feel like I'm targeting you, so I'm going to let it go. I just took offense at you indicating it's worthless for anyone to care. We know that Gustin has no interest in what's going on in their forum, and are working to end it, so the futility was actually in attempting to get them to acknowledge it on their forum for the last nine months. Either way, they seem to have birthed a proboards baby, and we have a pretty cool forum going, so you win some, you lose some -- but lets leave that other shit elsewhere and wish for the best for everyone, since we seem to be getting mixed messages right now as to whether QC is actually resolved. I just don't want this to become the place where everyone is afraid to say what they're ordering (yeah I'm getting the Japan Shine!) or who they're getting it from cause it unleashes the wolves -- like the other boards that led us here. People can mention about the sizing issue but please stop WHINING. We are all adults here and people should be smart enough to know what to expect when the time people hits the "buy" button. It doesn't only apply to Gustin but everything else in life. My wife and I love Porsche. Porsche is good in many things but electronic is definitely not one of it. If you have your Porsche to sit immobile for a week or two, the battery power will drain and the car will need to have a jump start. That is why I never leave my Porsche at the airport if I decide to take a long vacation trip. It has been like that FOREVER and owners have been telling Porsche probably this problem since the beginning. I just bought another one this year and it is EXACTLY like that. No existing Porsche owner WHINE about it because we know full well when we sign the purchase paper. Does it make any fxxxing sense the car needs a jump start if I don't drive the car for a week or two, NO. However, I don't whine about it because when I signed the purchase paper, I had two choices. Just accept the good or bad of the car or buy something else. After I make the decision to purchase the car, I never look back about my decision and whine about the problem that I knew I am getting myself into. |
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Post by jockohomo on Nov 9, 2014 19:18:09 GMT -6
There were complaints for three months. and then they issued a statement to their customers in June apologizing for the lax QC, and announced things were changing. That indicates that the only point at which this could have been resolved is starting with shipments arriving in the beginning of September. Any workshirts pending right now are something that was ordered before anyone had one. Everything else is still able to change sizes, so you're indicating that anyone that receives a shirt should have known better. This shirt, according to Gustin is coming out of an entirely different sew-shop, so these shirts are the first indication of how this product is going to turn out. I'm worried, but at the same time, I'm not worried about the pairs of jeans I've got underway with Gustin because I'm 5/5 for sizing on orders since the QC announcement. This means that, with 3-4 pairs of jeans in the hopper, I have a vested interest in bugula's experience. If you've written Gustin off completely, just contact them and ask for a refund since you have no faith in their ability to deliver, and break up with her, as you keep suggesting. If you want Gustin to address it, then do so publicly on StyleForum or reddit, since that's where you'll find them -- and you'll hit a much broader audience than here, and they'll either have it deleted, ignore it, or address it. This is starting to feel like I'm targeting you, so I'm going to let it go. I just took offense at you indicating it's worthless for anyone to care. We know that Gustin has no interest in what's going on in their forum, and are working to end it, so the futility was actually in attempting to get them to acknowledge it on their forum for the last nine months. Either way, they seem to have birthed a proboards baby, and we have a pretty cool forum going, so you win some, you lose some -- but lets leave that other shit elsewhere and wish for the best for everyone, since we seem to be getting mixed messages right now as to whether QC is actually resolved. I just don't want this to become the place where everyone is afraid to say what they're ordering (yeah I'm getting the Japan Shine!) or who they're getting it from cause it unleashes the wolves -- like the other boards that led us here. People can mention about the sizing issue but please stop WHINING. We are all adults here and people should be smart enough to know what to expect when the time people hits the "buy" button. It doesn't only apply to Gustin but everything else in life. My wife and I love Porsche. Porsche is good in many things but electronic is definitely not one of it. If you have your Porsche to sit immobile for a week or two, the battery power will drain and the car will need to have a jump start. That is why I never leave my Porsche at the airport if I decide to take a long vacation trip. It has been like that FOREVER and owners have been telling Porsche probably this problem since the beginning. I just bought another one this year and it is EXACTLY like that. No existing Porsche owner WHINE about it because we know full well when we sign the purchase paper. Does it make any fxxxing sense the car needs a jump start if I don't drive the car for a week or two, NO. However, I don't whine about it because when I signed the purchase paper, I had two choices. Just accept the good or bad of the car or buy something else. After I make the decision to purchase the car, I never look back about my decision and whine about the problem that I knew I am getting myself into. Year and Model Porsche?  Never has this issue myself. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 19:34:44 GMT -6
People can mention about the sizing issue but please stop WHINING. We are all adults here and people should be smart enough to know what to expect when the time people hits the "buy" button. It doesn't only apply to Gustin but everything else in life. My wife and I love Porsche. Porsche is good in many things but electronic is definitely not one of it. If you have your Porsche to sit immobile for a week or two, the battery power will drain and the car will need to have a jump start. That is why I never leave my Porsche at the airport if I decide to take a long vacation trip. It has been like that FOREVER and owners have been telling Porsche probably this problem since the beginning. I just bought another one this year and it is EXACTLY like that. No existing Porsche owner WHINE about it because we know full well when we sign the purchase paper. Does it make any fxxxing sense the car needs a jump start if I don't drive the car for a week or two, NO. However, I don't whine about it because when I signed the purchase paper, I had two choices. Just accept the good or bad of the car or buy something else. After I make the decision to purchase the car, I never look back about my decision and whine about the problem that I knew I am getting myself into. Year and Model Porsche? Never has this issue myself. 2015 Macan S. It is my wife car. We came back from vacation after two weeks and the car actually die on the road the first time she drove it out. Both the battery and alternator were shot and the dealer replaced both. Posche America felt so bad about our problem that they gave us a 4 years service contract for free. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2014 23:56:22 GMT -6
There were complaints for three months. and then they issued a statement to their customers in June apologizing for the lax QC, and announced things were changing. That indicates that the only point at which this could have been resolved is starting with shipments arriving in the beginning of September. Any workshirts pending right now are something that was ordered before anyone had one. Everything else is still able to change sizes, so you're indicating that anyone that receives a shirt should have known better. This shirt, according to Gustin is coming out of an entirely different sew-shop, so these shirts are the first indication of how this product is going to turn out. I'm worried, but at the same time, I'm not worried about the pairs of jeans I've got underway with Gustin because I'm 5/5 for sizing on orders since the QC announcement. This means that, with 3-4 pairs of jeans in the hopper, I have a vested interest in bugula's experience. If you've written Gustin off completely, just contact them and ask for a refund since you have no faith in their ability to deliver, and break up with her, as you keep suggesting. If you want Gustin to address it, then do so publicly on StyleForum or reddit, since that's where you'll find them -- and you'll hit a much broader audience than here, and they'll either have it deleted, ignore it, or address it. This is starting to feel like I'm targeting you, so I'm going to let it go. I just took offense at you indicating it's worthless for anyone to care. We know that Gustin has no interest in what's going on in their forum, and are working to end it, so the futility was actually in attempting to get them to acknowledge it on their forum for the last nine months. Either way, they seem to have birthed a proboards baby, and we have a pretty cool forum going, so you win some, you lose some -- but lets leave that other shit elsewhere and wish for the best for everyone, since we seem to be getting mixed messages right now as to whether QC is actually resolved. I just don't want this to become the place where everyone is afraid to say what they're ordering (yeah I'm getting the Japan Shine!) or who they're getting it from cause it unleashes the wolves -- like the other boards that led us here. People can mention about the sizing issue but please stop WHINING. We are all adults here and people should be smart enough to know what to expect when the time people hits the "buy" button. It doesn't only apply to Gustin but everything else in life. My wife and I love Porsche. Porsche is good in many things but electronic is definitely not one of it. If you have your Porsche to sit immobile for a week or two, the battery power will drain and the car will need to have a jump start. That is why I never leave my Porsche at the airport if I decide to take a long vacation trip. It has been like that FOREVER and owners have been telling Porsche probably this problem since the beginning. I just bought another one this year and it is EXACTLY like that. No existing Porsche owner WHINE about it because we know full well when we sign the purchase paper. Does it make any fxxxing sense the car needs a jump start if I don't drive the car for a week or two, NO. However, I don't whine about it because when I signed the purchase paper, I had two choices. Just accept the good or bad of the car or buy something else. After I make the decision to purchase the car, I never look back about my decision and whine about the problem that I knew I am getting myself into. Wait, you're telling other people to stop whining? Zzz that there is some serious jokes, bruh. After you've joined this forum, nonstop complaints and Gustin bashing. You got a shirt too long. You had an opportunity to return it. You chose not to, because it's not worth your time. But you still continue to bash Gustin. Bravo. |
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Post by jockohomo on Nov 10, 2014 9:06:29 GMT -6
Year and Model Porsche? Never has this issue myself. 2015 Macan S. It is my wife car. We came back from vacation after two weeks and the car actually die on the road the first time she drove it out. Both the battery and alternator were shot and the dealer replaced both. Posche America felt so bad about our problem that they gave us a 4 years service contract for free. Most Porschephiles would not consider a Audi Q5 in Porsche clothing a true Porsche. In any event, it does not appear that your problem with your Macan S is a pervasive problem. Furthermore, Porsche is not know as a manufacturer with a history of electronic issues. You might want to check JD Power for their recent rankings of automobile manufacturer quality.
However, what your baseless indictment of Porsche quality does show is you seem to have a penchant for going off half-cocked (not a good thing on a Colt single action) on things you might not have enough information to opine on. I suspect some of this flaw might creep into your incessant, repetitive and boring (also know as hyperbolic whining) posts regarding Gustin. It is getting old. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 9:32:23 GMT -6
This is not a Porsche forum, so I am not going to discuss with you about my cars here. It was my fault to not use the battery tender while I was out. Should know better.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 9:39:09 GMT -6
People can mention about the sizing issue but please stop WHINING. We are all adults here and people should be smart enough to know what to expect when the time people hits the "buy" button. It doesn't only apply to Gustin but everything else in life. My wife and I love Porsche. Porsche is good in many things but electronic is definitely not one of it. If you have your Porsche to sit immobile for a week or two, the battery power will drain and the car will need to have a jump start. That is why I never leave my Porsche at the airport if I decide to take a long vacation trip. It has been like that FOREVER and owners have been telling Porsche probably this problem since the beginning. I just bought another one this year and it is EXACTLY like that. No existing Porsche owner WHINE about it because we know full well when we sign the purchase paper. Does it make any fxxxing sense the car needs a jump start if I don't drive the car for a week or two, NO. However, I don't whine about it because when I signed the purchase paper, I had two choices. Just accept the good or bad of the car or buy something else. After I make the decision to purchase the car, I never look back about my decision and whine about the problem that I knew I am getting myself into. Wait, you're telling other people to stop whining? Zzz that there is some serious jokes, bruh. After you've joined this forum, nonstop complaints and Gustin bashing. You got a shirt too long. You had an opportunity to return it. You chose not to, because it's not worth your time. But you still continue to bash Gustin. Bravo. As I stated earlier, I should know better and I just accept my responsibility that I screwed up to buy that shirt. Why it is so difficult to understand? Btw, I am not even going to talk to you about people whining about Gustin sizing. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 10, 2014 10:31:02 GMT -6
2015 Macan S. It is my wife car. We came back from vacation after two weeks and the car actually die on the road the first time she drove it out. Both the battery and alternator were shot and the dealer replaced both. Posche America felt so bad about our problem that they gave us a 4 years service contract for free. Most Porschephiles would not consider a Audi Q5 in Porsche clothing a true Porsche. In any event, it does not appear that your problem with your Macan S is a pervasive problem. Furthermore, Porsche is not know as a manufacturer with a history of electronic issues. You might want to check JD Power for their recent rankings of automobile manufacturer quality.
However, what your baseless indictment of Porsche quality does show is you seem to have a penchant for going off half-cocked (not a good thing on a Colt single action) on things you might not have enough information to opine on. I suspect some of this flaw might creep into your incessant, repetitive and boring (also know as hyperbolic whining) posts regarding Gustin. It is getting old. I believe you mean a Q3, but let's not turn this into a flame war.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 10:33:46 GMT -6
Most Porschephiles would not consider a Audi Q5 in Porsche clothing a true Porsche. In any event, it does not appear that your problem with your Macan S is a pervasive problem. Furthermore, Porsche is not know as a manufacturer with a history of electronic issues. You might want to check JD Power for their recent rankings of automobile manufacturer quality.
However, what your baseless indictment of Porsche quality does show is you seem to have a penchant for going off half-cocked (not a good thing on a Colt single action) on things you might not have enough information to opine on. I suspect some of this flaw might creep into your incessant, repetitive and boring (also know as hyperbolic whining) posts regarding Gustin. It is getting old. I believe you mean a Q3, but let's not turn this into a flame war. Don't worry and I am not going to to take the bait. |
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Post by ickes on Nov 10, 2014 10:44:24 GMT -6
As wils stated, this isn't a Porsche forum fellas. lets try to stay on topic shall we??
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 14:27:18 GMT -6
Wait, you're telling other people to stop whining? Zzz that there is some serious jokes, bruh. After you've joined this forum, nonstop complaints and Gustin bashing. You got a shirt too long. You had an opportunity to return it. You chose not to, because it's not worth your time. But you still continue to bash Gustin. Bravo. As I stated earlier, I should know better and I just accept my responsibility that I screwed up to buy that shirt. Why it is so difficult to understand? Btw, I am not even going to talk to you about people whining about Gustin sizing. Buying one shirt from Gustin doesn't give you the justification to nonstop insult Gustin's quality. I have about $3k worth of Gustin clothes that would say otherwise. It's not difficult for me to understand, but it seems rather difficult for you. Accepting responsibility does not equate to bashing Gustin. I had a few denims, two Organic Hemps and Cone BluexBlack, that came to me very off in sizing, and then Ox2s that sewed slightly big. But I also have Black2s, GreyxBlacks, Grey Silks, Okayama Stds, Downtown Browns, Azures, Summer Blues, and a pair of Naturals that all came in spot on, which is why I continue to back their products (Super Heavies are at the post office for pickup. Zimbs, Brown Organics, and Raw Umbers will be done by the end of the month. And the Cone BluexBlacks will be finished in December). And all 20 of my shirts came spot on. If one shirt is getting all your panties in a bunch, then feel free to never purchase from Gustin again. But I think you need to stop posting regarding Gustin because it's not exactly constructive when you spew your filth. Thanks. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 10, 2014 14:52:47 GMT -6
Buying one shirt from Gustin doesn't give you the justification to nonstop insult Gustin's quality. I have about $3k worth of Gustin clothes that would say otherwise. It's not difficult for me to understand, but it seems rather difficult for you. Accepting responsibility does not equate to bashing Gustin. I had a few denims, two Organic Hemps and Cone BluexBlack, that came to me very off in sizing, and then Ox2s that sewed slightly big. But I also have Black2s, GreyxBlacks, Grey Silks, Okayama Stds, Downtown Browns, Azures, Summer Blues, and a pair of Naturals that all came in spot on, which is why I continue to back their products (Super Heavies are at the post office for pickup. Zimbs, Brown Organics, and Raw Umbers will be done by the end of the month. And the Cone BluexBlacks will be finished in December). And all 20 of my shirts came spot on. If one shirt is getting all your panties in a bunch, then feel free to never purchase from Gustin again. But I think you need to stop posting regarding Gustin because it's not exactly constructive when you spew your filth. Thanks. Dev, I'm curious about your thoughts on the Cone Blue x Black once you get them. I don't have a lot of love for them but I think I may have made a mistake and set the indigo too early with a cold wash. The initial look of the warp was very similar to my Japan Royal Indigo, but the JRI have started showing evidence of fades so much faster, where the Cones look almost the same as the day I bought them even after several washes. A couple little electric blue whiskers in the folded over part of the seams, but almost nothing else. |
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Post by Tobesjones on Nov 10, 2014 15:03:35 GMT -6
Buying one shirt from Gustin doesn't give you the justification to nonstop insult Gustin's quality. I have about $3k worth of Gustin clothes that would say otherwise. It's not difficult for me to understand, but it seems rather difficult for you. Accepting responsibility does not equate to bashing Gustin. I had a few denims, two Organic Hemps and Cone BluexBlack, that came to me very off in sizing, and then Ox2s that sewed slightly big. But I also have Black2s, GreyxBlacks, Grey Silks, Okayama Stds, Downtown Browns, Azures, Summer Blues, and a pair of Naturals that all came in spot on, which is why I continue to back their products (Super Heavies are at the post office for pickup. Zimbs, Brown Organics, and Raw Umbers will be done by the end of the month. And the Cone BluexBlacks will be finished in December). And all 20 of my shirts came spot on. If one shirt is getting all your panties in a bunch, then feel free to never purchase from Gustin again. But I think you need to stop posting regarding Gustin because it's not exactly constructive when you spew your filth. Thanks. Dev, I'm curious about your thoughts on the Cone Blue x Black once you get them. I don't have a lot of love for them but I think I may have made a mistake and set the indigo too early with a cold wash. The initial look of the warp was very similar to my Japan Royal Indigo, but the JRI have started showing evidence of fades so much faster, where the Cones look almost the same as the day I bought them even after several washes. A couple little electric blue whiskers in the folded over part of the seams, but almost nothing else. Now I am curious, why no love? I have mine from the first run sewn up much smaller and I still like them a lot. No fading yet after 9 months or so but with the dark indigo I rather have them keep the color. To me they are a more formal pair when I want something between a chino and regular denim. |
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Post by Old26 on Nov 10, 2014 15:10:13 GMT -6
Guys - let's keep the noise down ok? It's getting to the point where the thread is useless and folks don't want to participate in it. We all mostly know about G's issues and we all have our own interpretation of how well or not they're doing at addressing things.
It's totally fine to discuss issues with vendors here, but this horse has been beat, jerkey'd, eaten, crapped out, and beat again. Put 'er to bed fellas!
Shake hands.
Move on!
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Post by eczerwonka on Nov 10, 2014 16:58:53 GMT -6
Dev, I'm curious about your thoughts on the Cone Blue x Black once you get them. I don't have a lot of love for them but I think I may have made a mistake and set the indigo too early with a cold wash. The initial look of the warp was very similar to my Japan Royal Indigo, but the JRI have started showing evidence of fades so much faster, where the Cones look almost the same as the day I bought them even after several washes. A couple little electric blue whiskers in the folded over part of the seams, but almost nothing else. Now I am curious, why no love? I have mine from the first run sewn up much smaller and I still like them a lot. No fading yet after 9 months or so but with the dark indigo I rather have them keep the color. To me they are a more formal pair when I want something between a chino and regular denim. I know I bought the Italian bluexblack hoping they might be a poor man's PBJ's. They aren't going to fade at all  So I guess the Cone's don't fade either I was really hoping to find a pair of IxI that would give similar fades to the PBJs. Last chance might be the Japanese IxI or IxB? |
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Post by ickes on Nov 10, 2014 17:16:50 GMT -6
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Post by exophobe on Nov 10, 2014 17:28:26 GMT -6
Now I am curious, why no love? I have mine from the first run sewn up much smaller and I still like them a lot. No fading yet after 9 months or so but with the dark indigo I rather have them keep the color. To me they are a more formal pair when I want something between a chino and regular denim. I think I was just hoping for more fading. I think they came out just about perfect; the sizing is right, no issues with the construction, nothing. I think the deck was stacked against them from the beginning, as far as I am concerned, because I wanted them to be like the Italian BluxBlk, and they really couldn't be much more different -- texture, color, you name it, the only thing they really seem to share is that blue x black is in the name. I'll probably give them a warm wash to try to shrink them up a bit more and see if I can't beat some fades out of them yet, though. I'm thinking, though, that my initial wash of them was the mistake, and I ended up setting the dye instead of encouraging it to loosen up. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 10, 2014 19:47:07 GMT -6
Japan Shine shipped today! We'll see how much of an idiot I am come Wednesday. 
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Post by Derek G on Nov 10, 2014 20:21:19 GMT -6
Japan Shine shipped today! We'll see how much of an idiot I am come Wednesday. I wish you the sickest shiniest fadez brother! I hope they're everything you expect and hope for |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2014 23:41:46 GMT -6
Now I am curious, why no love? I have mine from the first run sewn up much smaller and I still like them a lot. No fading yet after 9 months or so but with the dark indigo I rather have them keep the color. To me they are a more formal pair when I want something between a chino and regular denim. I think I was just hoping for more fading. I think they came out just about perfect; the sizing is right, no issues with the construction, nothing. I think the deck was stacked against them from the beginning, as far as I am concerned, because I wanted them to be like the Italian BluxBlk, and they really couldn't be much more different -- texture, color, you name it, the only thing they really seem to share is that blue x black is in the name. I'll probably give them a warm wash to try to shrink them up a bit more and see if I can't beat some fades out of them yet, though. I'm thinking, though, that my initial wash of them was the mistake, and I ended up setting the dye instead of encouraging it to loosen up. Honestly, I don't buy denim hoping they produce sick fades. I like all my denim the way they are. I'm not saying I'll be upset if they fade, I just don't value the fading part of it as much as most others it seems. It looks just fine as is imo. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 11, 2014 0:20:21 GMT -6
Honestly, I don't buy denim hoping they produce sick fades. I like all my denim the way they are. I'm not saying I'll be upset if they fade, I just don't value the fading part of it as much as most others it seems. It looks just fine as is imo. Well, keep in mind I was expecting it to be something like the Italian BxB, which is a totally different shade of blue (I was apparently bad at envisioning jeans from a swatch then), so when they came in as a super-saturated navy blue, I wanted that to start breaking up -- the blue doesn't seem to work with anything else I have, shirts, shoes, jackets, anything. I've never been a fan of dark navy blue, so that's more of what it was based in than getting "sick fades, brah". I am enjoying the Japan Royal Indigo, though, so maybe I'm warming up to it. But hey, let's look at it positively, you don't want them to fade? I don't think the Cone BxB is gonna disappoint. |
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Never has this issue myself.
So I guess the Cone's don't fade either 
