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Post by whiskeyriver on Feb 25, 2016 14:08:00 GMT -6
Not a big brass button on a shirt guy. And pockets on an 11-oz. "shirt" (too light to be called a shirt jac really) seems odd.
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Post by davelewis on Feb 25, 2016 14:48:42 GMT -6
Not a big brass button on a shirt guy. And pockets on an 11-oz. "shirt" (too light to be called a shirt jac really) seems odd. Totally.
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Post by disheveled on Feb 25, 2016 15:52:49 GMT -6
IH seems to have a lot of redundancy in their line up. This looks very similar to the 33--which I've caught myself trying to put my hands in the nonexistent pockets (I got used to them with the 100) lol
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Post by giles on Feb 25, 2016 17:31:58 GMT -6
Not a big brass button on a shirt guy. And pockets on an 11-oz. "shirt" (too light to be called a shirt jac really) seems odd. Totally. You aint felt 11.5oz until you have felt IH 11.5oz.
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Post by giles on Feb 25, 2016 17:34:28 GMT -6
IH seems to have a lot of redundancy in their line up. This looks very similar to the 33--which I've caught myself trying to put my hands in the nonexistent pockets (I got used to them with the 100) lol How can a true western and what is effectively a CPO be in anyway compared? They are totally different animals and we'll sell a lot of both....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 17:40:41 GMT -6
Yeah, lol. It's not just as simple as "ab.c oz fabric will be like this or that". I realized the intricacies in fabric R&D when Giles explained that "This fabric feels heavier than THAT fabric because the warp is spun more tightly than the weft which blah, blah, blah......." I guess that's why people say the 19L feels BULLET PROOF, but the 21oz and 25oz are buttery and soft lol
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Post by brentkuz on Feb 25, 2016 17:46:56 GMT -6
Buttery what is this Gustin copy.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2016 18:06:45 GMT -6
I chuckled as I typed it, lol
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Post by davelewis on Feb 25, 2016 18:48:08 GMT -6
You aint felt 11.5oz until you have felt IH 11.5oz. Its a nice looking shirt, just saying brass snaps and pockets aren't for everyone, although I see the need for you to offer up something other than the same configurations.
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Post by giles on Feb 26, 2016 1:04:55 GMT -6
Sorry, I did not read that in your comment....What sort of "other configuration" are you thinking of?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 1:14:00 GMT -6
Have you ever considered a denim shirt jac with donut buttons (like button fly jeans)?
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Post by giles on Feb 26, 2016 2:00:51 GMT -6
I have been wanting to do a pullover denim shirt/jacket with buttons like that for some time. Levi's did an amazing one mid last century....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2016 2:05:46 GMT -6
Oh, that sounds GOOD!!!!!
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Post by whiskeyriver on Feb 26, 2016 7:25:03 GMT -6
Yeah, lol. It's not just as simple as "ab.c oz fabric will be like this or that". I realized the intricacies in fabric R&D when Giles explained that "This fabric feels heavier than THAT fabric because the warp is spun more tightly than the weft which blah, blah, blah......." I guess that's why people say the 19L feels BULLET PROOF, but the 21oz and 25oz are buttery and soft lol It's not. But you aren't the only chap that understands this, untucked. I have a tightly woven denim workshirt that is 12 oz. and I'd consider it too light for shirt jac purposes. Again, this is all subjective. Style is inherently subjective. When people say "I don't like the look of that," they aren't saying "IT'S AWFUL! BURN IT!" They're saying "I, personally, would not wear that." Nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by ickes on Feb 26, 2016 7:59:01 GMT -6
Yep, all of this is subjective. To me, 12oz is absolutely shirt jac material. 12oz is right at or just about what a lot of trucker jackets are at, which is obviously a jacket. I'm certain that there are a lot of jackets out there that are 12oz or even just under.
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Post by disheveled on Feb 26, 2016 8:06:17 GMT -6
IH seems to have a lot of redundancy in their line up. This looks very similar to the 33--which I've caught myself trying to put my hands in the nonexistent pockets (I got used to them with the 100) lol How can a true western and what is effectively a CPO be in anyway compared? They are totally different animals and we'll sell a lot of both.... The comparison comes from a newbie's perspective, shot from the hip. Just like only relying on "sizes"--without looking at measurements--is a big mistake, so too is superficially looking at a garment and pigeon holing it, without understanding the specifics. Thanks for helping to spread the knowledge, Giles; keep the killer threads coming--even if I'm not able to fully appreciate the subtleties, quite yet
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Post by davelewis on Feb 26, 2016 12:15:37 GMT -6
Sorry, I did not read that in your comment....What sort of "other configuration" are you thinking of? What I meant was that it is good that you have shirts that offer heavier snaps, side entry pockets, etc, rather than the same styles with just different fabrics. Although there might not be a need for every customer, it is always good to have options. I have a non IH 15oz denim shirt that I like, but it would be better with the heavier snaps that IH uses.
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Post by disheveled on Feb 29, 2016 21:21:54 GMT -6
Really like the 137. Which one is the 716? And yes I will be all over that blue 137. That's going to be the go to color (blue/brick), looks awesome esp. in the close ups. Can we reasonably assume the measurements of the 142 will match the 134 specs? I thought I remember reading certain products will be UK only, some Japan only, some both. Do we know which ones will be available where?
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Post by exophobe on Feb 29, 2016 21:32:05 GMT -6
And yes I will be all over that blue 137. That's going to be the go to color (blue/brick), looks awesome esp. in the close ups. Can we reasonably assume the measurements of the 142 will match the 134 specs? I thought I remember reading certain products will be UK only, some Japan only, some both. Do we know which ones will be available where? ickes posted the shirt release schedule elsewhere on the forum, not sure where, exactly. edit: here it is.
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Post by disheveled on Feb 29, 2016 21:45:51 GMT -6
Awesome, thanks brother!
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 1, 2016 7:16:58 GMT -6
Rodeo bros just restocked a lot of iron heart goods.
666-19l 634 - 21/23 Long sleeve T's
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Post by ickes on Mar 1, 2016 7:28:25 GMT -6
And yes I will be all over that blue 137. That's going to be the go to color (blue/brick), looks awesome esp. in the close ups. Can we reasonably assume the measurements of the 142 will match the 134 specs? I thought I remember reading certain products will be UK only, some Japan only, some both. Do we know which ones will be available where? I wouldn't assume anything regarding the fit of one shirt matching that of the other. I would always look at the fit guide for each individual product.
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Post by disheveled on Mar 1, 2016 8:02:36 GMT -6
That's going to be the go to color (blue/brick), looks awesome esp. in the close ups. Can we reasonably assume the measurements of the 142 will match the 134 specs? I thought I remember reading certain products will be UK only, some Japan only, some both. Do we know which ones will be available where? I wouldn't assume anything regarding the fit of one shirt matching that of the other. I would always look at the fit guide for each individual product. Thanks, Ickes. Smart man.
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Post by devastitis on Mar 3, 2016 0:50:05 GMT -6
I'm not usually into denim shirts, but..the IHSH-140 is sexy as hell and available on Rebirth.
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Post by brentkuz on Mar 3, 2016 6:59:38 GMT -6
I'm not usually into denim shirts, but..the IHSH-140 is sexy as hell and available on Rebirth. Sizing is a bit weird to me. Like I think I would be a XXL because of the chest measurements. Would be a sweet shirt.
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