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Post by mkeview on Dec 5, 2015 17:01:57 GMT -6
I'd be in on a wool shirt more than a denim one. Also, my preference would be in the 10oz range. I like 12 but I'm positive that my max. 16+ that's light jacket territory in my mind.
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Post by bigblack on Dec 5, 2015 17:13:44 GMT -6
If indigo or sulfur dyed wool could be found, i'd buy them in a heart beat
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Post by Subsound on Dec 5, 2015 17:45:58 GMT -6
I'd prefer the workshirt but I think some impressive fabric choices as I mentioned earlier would make all the difference. If you could offer both a workshirt & a western I think it would make everyone happy.
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Post by DigDug on Dec 9, 2015 11:29:58 GMT -6
Ok, what's our problem here!? Why isn't this funded? $95 ?? More then a fair price. Why didn't you back it (I also didn't , and I don't know why:( Is it 1- design 2- fabric choice 3- unsure of sizing I know it's not price or quality. Post only one reason. I'm going with fabric choice But the more I look at it the more I think it'll look good with darker jeans. What say you?
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Post by wdw on Dec 9, 2015 11:36:42 GMT -6
Sorry, but I can't do just one. It has to be 1 and 2. It seems the work shirt is less popular than the western, and IMHO an indigo shirt is the wrong choice for a denim forum where those who want one will surely have at least one.
My guess is that anything but indigo would have sold better.
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Post by davelewis on Dec 9, 2015 11:59:37 GMT -6
For me, I don't need another denim shirt.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 9, 2015 12:07:00 GMT -6
Ok, what's our problem here!? Why isn't this funded? $95 ?? More then a fair price. Why didn't you back it (I also didn't , and I don't know why:( Is it 1- design 2- fabric choice 3- unsure of sizing I know it's not price or quality. Post only one reason. I'm going with fabric choice But the more I look at it the more I think it'll look good with darker jeans. What say you? Fabric choice and timing. I'd like to see him work out something where they cut 30 shirts in different fabrics and send them off for sewing, but I'm a way outside party in negotiations between Ciano and the party that has agreed to sew them. I like the design for a workshirt, though I'd prefer snaps (laziness? no idea, just prefer snaps on heavier fabrics, and if that makes me wear westerns, so be it). That 14oz olive denim would make a great workshirt, actually nearly everything on his site would be great for a workshirt including the duck fabrics he made his name with. Come to think of it, duck workshirts, you pick the color -- I think a lot of people could get behind that, and I wouldn't think it'd be too upsetting to the arrangement he's already made for sewing.
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Post by DigDug on Dec 9, 2015 12:12:00 GMT -6
I'd think offering only one fabric is what kept the cost down. Maybe if it was a more interesting denim (something crosshatch would be my choice) it would have sold. I guess he wanted to play it safe for the first one.
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Post by wdw on Dec 9, 2015 12:19:08 GMT -6
People might also be a bit wary about the timescale. It said 4-6 weeks, and we're now 4 weeks or so in and no likelihood of it funding, so the backers can't be happy. How long before he pulls the plug and refunds them? My 23oz were meant to be 9 weeks but they took about 16 and I know that others have been waiting longer. I really like what Ciano does and trust him implicitly to eventually deliver, but I wouldn't even back a natural western now unless I was a lot more confident in delivery times. And as Indigogene never bothered to reply to my email and I have all the G I need, I guess I'm out of this model for the foreseeable future. I'll stick to Rakuten for a quick fix, although Rodeo still haven't come back about an order I placed yesterday. Nobody's perfect, including me
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Post by ickes on Dec 9, 2015 12:35:55 GMT -6
For me it's a combo of what's been stated before. Fabric, the lengthy time frame to get an order, and the lack of replies to emails.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 12:50:35 GMT -6
to some extent, all of the above. -for denim it would have to be interesting and non-indigo. i'd be more piqued by non denim options. -design...seems to be a work in progress. i'm fine with that in theory...just a bit fatigued by the order one thing, maybe receive something slightly different model. -sizing...the charts so far have seemed massive and i see potential shifts here as well -timing...each order (3 total) i've placed has gone progressively longer and longer with some hiccup and/or no proactive communication or explanation. of course i've gotten everything i've ordered...again just a bit fatigued by the lack of proactive communication in this area
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Post by jbreitenbucher on Dec 9, 2015 13:53:08 GMT -6
I don't need a denim shirt.
As for communication response and time scale, I think if you have an issue you call him (email may not be the preferred mode of communication and this forum should not be considered direct communication) and I guess I've ordered enough custom clothing that I'm used to an order it and forget about it approach. Hell, if I were ever lucky enough to be able to get a true bespoke suit from Savile Row it could take upward of 18 months to receive it, so 16 weeks doesn't seem so bad.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 14:11:59 GMT -6
I don't need a denim shirt. As for communication response and time scale, I think if you have an issue you call him (email may not be the preferred mode of communication and this forum should not be considered direct communication) and I guess I've ordered enough custom clothing that I'm used to an order it and forget about it approach. Hell, if I were ever lucky enough to be able to get a true bespoke suit from Savile Row it could take upward of 18 months to receive it, so 16 weeks doesn't seem so bad. I agree that patience is vital for mto gear, though 16+ wks for a non-custom pair of pants is a bit extreme. My main beef is that I don't think I should be the one reaching out in all cases. Each time there has been a reason for a delay...and each time I waited. Not once was I contacted and told that they ran out of fabric before finishing the pair or there was a button shortage. For the button delay I waited well over a month past the estimated timeline before contacting him at which point he just started looking for alternatives. IMHO the customer shouldn't have to kick start that process, rather the other way around.
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Post by Griffin on Dec 9, 2015 16:14:05 GMT -6
Imho he is all I ever hoped for making kickass stuff. Im in no hurry to get my stuff as long as i get it. Im just low on funds now but really like the shirt very f!@king much, even tho i have the G zimb i would love to have this aswell, looks badass and will probably hold good enough to really fade to light whereas many others fall apart looong before they are finished so this is a huuge point if Im right about it. I realy want to buy clothes i can wear and wash for many many yesars and most stuff isnt up to snuff but this looks killer. Only thing bothering me is the huge gussets and length otherwise its a straight flush.
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Post by librarianbuckle on Dec 9, 2015 16:50:54 GMT -6
The width and length are too big for me. I'd need a XXS. (He says it will shrink 1" but I don't want to rely on that, and I don't want to put it in the dryer. Even with 1" shrinkage it's still slightly too wide.)
Also, who knows how many orders he has? The campaign progress has been 2% since it launched. 2% is not possible because 1/30 = 3% so the progress indicator is clearly not working. He said last week he had six orders. Hopefully he's closer to thirty now. I want the project to get off the ground but the dimensions just don't work for me.
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Post by exophobe on Dec 9, 2015 17:00:55 GMT -6
The width and length are too big for me. I'd need a XXS. (He says it will shrink 1" but I don't want to rely on that, and I don't want to put it in the dryer. Even with 1" shrinkage it's still slightly too wide.) Also, who knows how many orders he has? The campaign progress has been 2% since it launched. 2% is not possible because 1/30 = 3% so the progress indicator is clearly not working. He said last week he had six orders. Hopefully he's closer to thirty now. I want the project to get off the ground but the dimensions just don't work for me. I believe the statement was that it's a flop because he only has six orders after a month and needs 30.
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Post by gaseousclay on Dec 9, 2015 20:04:23 GMT -6
For me it's a combo of what's been stated before. Fabric, the lengthy time frame to get an order, and the lack of replies to emails. It's the time for me. 2 months is my absolute limit and the time frame which Gustin gets most of their orders out. After 2 months i start to get a little twitchy. I really really want to buy CF's slim fit trucker but I'm not waiting 3-4 months for it. The problem is, bespoke denim is a niche market and when you're catering to denim enthusiasts you're opening a big can of worms because we all want our stuff now. Some might be ok with the wait but unless there's some consistency with turnaround and responsiveness you're shooting yourself in the foot.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 21:44:31 GMT -6
A combination of all three for me too. I can buy a similar shirt off the rack. Yes it would cost more but they need something that I really want. They don't have a lot of confidence themselves. Do a good design, find an awesome fabric and have 30 made ready to ship and then we'll see.
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Post by kylepa on Dec 10, 2015 0:05:23 GMT -6
Just the fabric for me. I think the work shirt design is spot on and timing doesn't bother me at a good price. If this were in indigo canvas or brown denim I'd be on board.
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Post by Subsound on Dec 10, 2015 17:53:30 GMT -6
The fabric for me too. There are so many great selvedge fabrics around that it would be great to hit a home run with the first shirt; something no-one has offered as a shirt before. As I mentioned in an earlier post, an interesting texture or pattern would fund very quickly.
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Post by notwithit on Dec 13, 2015 3:18:19 GMT -6
Small-time lurker here; I came to this forum specifically to check up on the CFDC workshirt. My hangups at this point are:
a) fit - I'm on the lanky side, and I'd rather wait for a slim-fit version than buy a regular-fit model that I'll be swimming in. b) fabric - I wear indigo warp / white weft denim just about every day. It's pretty difficult for me to work an indigo warp / white weft denim shirt in. I'd much rather see one of the selvedge duck fabrics that's currently offered for the chinos, a black / black, black / charcoal, or other more saturated denim, or some kind of zany denim or chambray like the brown organic hemp or Japanese olive denims.
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Post by Subsound on Dec 23, 2015 19:04:18 GMT -6
Stevenson do some great gear but that shirt is way too western for me. cianofarmer any luck sourcing different fabrics for the workshirt?
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Post by usctroll on Dec 27, 2015 21:23:54 GMT -6
Any update on these shirts?
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Post by DigDug on Dec 27, 2015 22:13:47 GMT -6
Any update on these shirts? CF may have gotten pissed/offended that this didn't go over well. They haven't been on line here since the shirts launch (Nov 30).
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Post by Subsound on Dec 27, 2015 23:40:06 GMT -6
Any update on these shirts? CF may have gotten pissed/offended that this didn't go over well. They haven't been on line here since the shirts launch (Nov 30). I hope that's not the case; that they've just got busy with other things. There seems to be plenty of people in this thread waiting to place an order given the right fabric, and perhaps a future western option.
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