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Post by al1978 on Feb 23, 2015 14:15:21 GMT -6
I received two solid oxfords and one flannel that are fine (not worth the price, though), and then got a succession of four horribly made patterned shirts. They had all the flaws discussed here. So I got a refund for them and cancelled my remaining orders, also for a refund. One of the shirts I received before cancelling the others was the $150 Thomas Mason flannel. It went to goodwill along with another $100 flannel. QC on the shirts is apparently nonexistent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:40:16 GMT -6
So, I was thinking, Gustin needs a facelift. The post KS Gustin made decent jeans at a decent price. Then the core community on the G forum basically did Gustin's marketing research for them fot a good year plus. Make a chore coat, make a workshirt, make a cpo. All that came from the forum. All the other stuff from G has been mostly scarves, bottle openers and aprons. Yeah I'm generalizing but the non jeans backbone products came from non employees asking for stuff.
That group of non employees has moved on. Gustin has closed the forum. Things have gone a bit south.....
I'm not being a hater. Just seems like it's time for G to change their model a bit. Grow into the next phase, get QC and a real menswear designer or two on staff.
These shirts are comical. I'd be really pissed off if my name was on one of those things.
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Post by stinky on Feb 23, 2015 16:37:30 GMT -6
I'd be livid if I dropped $150 on a Thomas Mason Gustin flannel shirt and it was crooked.
I reported F'ed up plaid to Cody shortly after I got my Orange Fade Plaid shirt (September 6, 2014), and it appears that these things still would not pass QC at an Old Navy contractor in Indonesia.
How have they not fixed this? I just don't understand.
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Post by bentin on Feb 23, 2015 16:59:36 GMT -6
I bought my Flag Plaid out of the stock store, primarily to check sizing. It has a crooked placket and the pattern doesn't align right to left.
So presumably, it was sold to a customer, returned for cause and resold from the stock store to this sucker. I suppose as long as they keep finding a way to force them on someone, they'll keep selling shitty shirts.
Shame because my Wabisabi WS is very well made (don't read this Middle Age) and fairly priced at $140. Their patterned Oxfords are a disgrace at $76 and criminal at $150.
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Post by jamesr on Feb 23, 2015 17:39:52 GMT -6
Do they resell returned goods in the stock store? I would think if a customer said he was returning a shirt due to a poorly aligned placket, they would check it once it was back in their hands. If, in turn, they put it up for sale in the stock store... well, it feels somewhat deceptive to me.
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Post by scooter on Feb 23, 2015 17:43:43 GMT -6
Well, I just pulled my rust twill out of the bag. Perfect fit. The alignment looks good. The placket(from top to bottom) strays about 2mm(forgivable). The yoke is straight. Just one problem.....Like derek, it has been sewn inside out. I didn't even get a right side out sleeve.  If the oranges and reds weren't so muted, I might have considered keeping it.....On second thought, no, I wouldn't have considered it. Back it goes ! |
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Post by felizuno on Feb 23, 2015 18:22:03 GMT -6
Just recd a rustic blue twill from the grab bag www.weargustin.com/store/1189 While I'd never intentionally order patterned Gustin shirts again (unless they change shops), for a grab bag I feel like this shirt is close enough to keep. The placket has some minor issues that I notice but others wont. One sleeve aligns beautifully with the body, the other doesn't. I just don't care, the fabric is soft, people won't notice, and it was $65 made in USA of JP fabric shirt. At least this one I would have been willing to buy at a thrift store, unlike the last two. Still willing to buy solids in cool fabrics for sure, the fit works for me so no problems there. |
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Post by ickes on Feb 23, 2015 18:29:31 GMT -6
Just recd a rustic blue twill from the grab bag www.weargustin.com/store/1189 While I'd never intentionally order patterned Gustin shirts again (unless they change shops), for a grab bag I feel like this shirt is close enough to keep. The placket has some minor issues that I notice but others wont. One sleeve aligns beautifully with the body, the other doesn't. I just don't care, the fabric is soft, people won't notice, and it was $65 made in USA of JP fabric shirt. At least this one I would have been willing to buy at a thrift store, unlike the last two. Still willing to buy solids in cool fabrics for sure, the fit works for me so no problems there. I have this shirt, love it. Glad it worked out for u |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 18:34:57 GMT -6
Just recd a rustic blue twill from the grab bag www.weargustin.com/store/1189 While I'd never intentionally order patterned Gustin shirts again (unless they change shops), for a grab bag I feel like this shirt is close enough to keep. The placket has some minor issues that I notice but others wont. One sleeve aligns beautifully with the body, the other doesn't. I just don't care, the fabric is soft, people won't notice, and it was $65 made in USA of JP fabric shirt. At least this one I would have been willing to buy at a thrift store, unlike the last two. Still willing to buy solids in cool fabrics for sure, the fit works for me so no problems there. I have this shirt, love it. Glad it worked out for u MattIckes: you have quite a few of the patterned G shirts, right? Are you having the same issues as everyone else? |
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Post by ickes on Feb 23, 2015 19:46:21 GMT -6
I have this shirt, love it. Glad it worked out for u MattIckes: you have quite a few of the patterned G shirts, right? Are you having the same issues as everyone else? I do, and none of them are perfect but none are unbearable. None of them are so bad that I don't wear them. |
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Post by bozer on Feb 25, 2015 9:45:27 GMT -6
Personally I never even noticed any problems with my shirts. But now that you guys are harping on it, I guess the lines don't always match perfectly where the chest meets the arms but I'm willing to bet most of my other shirts from other companies are the same thing. You guys are nitpicking in my opinion unless its some really crazy mis-match. I don't think anyone would notice this.
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Post by bentin on Feb 25, 2015 9:59:21 GMT -6
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 10:02:53 GMT -6
I think we are a bunch of sad suckers when Abercromibe has better aligned pattern shirts than what we buy from Gustin. (btw, if it is not the monkey length sleeves, I am buying the red flannel shirt here) www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/mens-plaid-shirts |
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Post by stinky on Feb 25, 2015 10:08:51 GMT -6
Personally I never even noticed any problems with my shirts. But now that you guys are harping on it, I guess the lines don't always match perfectly where the chest meets the arms but I'm willing to bet most of my other shirts from other companies are the same thing. You guys are nitpicking in my opinion unless its some really crazy mis-match. I don't think anyone would notice this. Many of us have received shirts where the plaid on the placket runs at an angle--or in some cases--a crescent, yokes that run at an angle, or front panels were on a slant. Some of us have received shirts that exhibit all three qualities (the trifecta of shame). And now, they have started releasing shirts with sleeves that are inside out. I give them a pass on the plaid lining up where the arms meet the body and the seam that runs down the side from the armpit to the waist. It's not nitpicking, its a minimum set of standards . . . the plaid should be square in those key areas mentioned above. |
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Post by stinky on Feb 25, 2015 10:11:31 GMT -6
Also, if you want to see some more examples of alignment sadness, just take a stroll through the shirts on eBay. There was a short sleeved blue gingham on there a few weeks ago that looks like it was sewn in a bar after last call.
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Post by ickes on Feb 25, 2015 10:23:47 GMT -6
I think bozer has a point to a certain degree. I have looked at several of my Taylor Stitch shirts and they are not perfect either. There is not doubt though that there are some serious clusterf!@ks of Gustin shirts out there, no doubt...we've seen the pics and some of them are just funny. However, I have quite a few Gustin shirts and none are that bad and until this was pointed out I never even noticed this or paid attention on any of my shirts and I would bet that the majority of the people out there would not even notice. I know I've had lady friends who actually like my G shirts more than any others in my closet (especially the Grey Ember Flannel for some reason) and they haven't said one time that the placket or pocket is not aligned. They don't even know what a placket is. I see both sides of this but like I said before, this hasn't stopped me from buying G shirts. Now watch, my next two shirts I receive will probably be sewn completely inside out and will have the body of one fabric with the sleeves of a completely different fabric. Lets hope I didn't jynx myself. |
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Post by Mattbert on Feb 25, 2015 10:45:52 GMT -6
Personally I never even noticed any problems with my shirts. But now that you guys are harping on it, I guess the lines don't always match perfectly where the chest meets the arms but I'm willing to bet most of my other shirts from other companies are the same thing. You guys are nitpicking in my opinion unless its some really crazy mis-match. I don't think anyone would notice this. That's not the nit being picked, though. At least not by me. I agree that perfectly lining up the pattern between chest and arms is not necessary. I actually think most plaids look better when the pattern is offset between arms and chest. Like so:  The problem with the Slub Plaid shirt sample on the Gustin site yesterday isn't that the pattern doesn't line up across the sleeves and chest, it's that it does line up...but only on one side. Which looks like shit.   Either align the chest and sleeves or don't. But whatever you choose, the sleeves should be symmetrical with each other regardless of whether or not they match the chest. |
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Post by Whiskey Mercenary on Feb 25, 2015 11:02:38 GMT -6
The problem with the Slub Plaid shirt sample on the Gustin site yesterday isn't that the pattern doesn't line up across the sleeves and chest, it's that it does line up...but only on one side. Which looks like shit. Either align the chest and sleeves or don't. But whatever you choose, the sleeves should be symmetrical with each other regardless of whether or not they match the chest. Yikes, I didn't even see that. you're right, that's not the way to do it |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 11:10:14 GMT -6
The problem with the Slub Plaid shirt sample on the Gustin site yesterday isn't that the pattern doesn't line up across the sleeves and chest, it's that it does line up...but only on one side. Which looks like shit. Either align the chest and sleeves or don't. But whatever you choose, the sleeves should be symmetrical with each other regardless of whether or not they match the chest. Yikes, I didn't even see that. you're right, that's not the way to do it This fabric is the bomb but sadly, it is in the wrong hand. I hope I will see it again from another vendor. Ignorant is bliss on not knowing it is a problem and think the misalignment doesn't look like shit. I have two G shirts in my closet and I only wear them under a sweater now. |
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Post by Whiskey Mercenary on Feb 25, 2015 11:33:05 GMT -6
I think we are a bunch of sad suckers when Abercromibe has better aligned pattern shirts than what we buy from Gustin. (btw, if it is not the monkey length sleeves, I am buying the red flannel shirt here) www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/mens-plaid-shirtsWhoa, those look great. I might have to snag them |
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Post by julian on Feb 25, 2015 11:42:10 GMT -6
I guess the lines don't always match perfectly where the chest meets the arms but I'm willing to bet most of my other shirts from other companies are the same thing. Plaid shirts aren't overly my thing, but over the years I've bought a fair few that I liked the look of. I've just got them all out and checked (no pun intended) them over. Eight of them are by US brands, all were around the $80 to $100 price point and all of them are absolutely flawlessly matched up in all the relevant areas and... they were all made in China. Also have an Edwin patterned shirt which is also perfect. That one was made in Japan and a lot pricier so to be expected. Just looked over a couple of plaid nightshirts my girlfriend leaves here - my guess is that neither cost more than $30 - and they are perfect as well. Both made in China. I tend to shy away from buying most UK-made goods as the people making them just don't GAF unless they're full premium brands, maybe it's the same problem with mid-price/mid-salary US-made goods? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2015 11:43:48 GMT -6
I think we are a bunch of sad suckers when Abercromibe has better aligned pattern shirts than what we buy from Gustin. (btw, if it is not the monkey length sleeves, I am buying the red flannel shirt here) www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/mens-plaid-shirtsWhoa, those look great. I might have to snag them Yeah... was thinking about it but I will need to take it to the tailor to shorten those REALLY LONG sleeves. Woolrich fabric with modern fit. |
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Post by ickes on Feb 25, 2015 12:32:14 GMT -6
I think we are a bunch of sad suckers when Abercromibe has better aligned pattern shirts than what we buy from Gustin. (btw, if it is not the monkey length sleeves, I am buying the red flannel shirt here) www.abercrombie.com/shop/us/mens-plaid-shirtsWhoa, those look great. I might have to snag them Damn, those do look nice! |
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Post by ickes on Feb 25, 2015 12:33:29 GMT -6
man, that Slub Plaid is such a cool fabric.
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Post by bentin on Feb 25, 2015 13:13:12 GMT -6
man, that Slub Plaid is such a cool fabric. It is, I haven't found it from another vendor yet, but it would be nice to have it made by a competent shop. |
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If the oranges and reds weren't so muted, I might have considered keeping it.....On second thought, no, I wouldn't have considered it. Back it goes !
