Wolverine

[exophobe]

Jun 13, 2015 11:42:11 GMT -6 devastitis said:

Jun 13, 2015 11:16:42 GMT -6 @untucked said:

I'm not trying to start a Wolverine/Redwing war, but has anyone ever seen or heard of a pair of IR's falling apart or wearing out too soon? I haven't, but I'm about to search the interwebs now

I was just referring to this guy.

Yeah he disappeared right quick after announcing he hates everything people wear here. No taper/slim jeans, no untucked shirts, red wings are shit, etc.

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Jun 13, 2015 12:03:55 GMT -6 exophobe said:

Jun 13, 2015 11:42:11 GMT -6 devastitis said:

I was just referring to this guy.

Yeah he disappeared right quick after announcing he hates everything people wear here. No taper/slim jeans, no untucked shirts, red wings are shit, etc.

He certainly did.

[jray]

Thankfully there have been very few people like him here and they don't last very long

[bugula]

he was introduced to denimbro.

to add something relevant...i have a pair of 1ks and a couple pairs of IRs. they're totally different boots. the 1ks were instantly comfortable and still rank as my most comfortable boot. but yes, it's a leather sole. if you're putting time in them on concrete, that sole is going to wear down very quickly. i had a comparable pair of boots two years ago that i blew through in a few months by walking to/from work each day (3.5mi). i'm expecting the exact same to happen with the 1ks and when it does, i'll get some dainites thrown on and keep 'em going because the upper is beautiful and the fit is great.

[scooter]

Jun 13, 2015 11:08:37 GMT -6 @untucked said:

Jun 13, 2015 10:51:14 GMT -6 julian said:

The classic, US made, 1000 Mile boots are not work boots. They might be based on what were originally work boots but anyone who has ever worn a pair knows full well they're a casual wear boot.

They come with leather soles - how much more of a clue do people really need?

I avoid wearing mine in wet weather or if rain is likely and only when I know the surfaces I'll be walking on are pavements, roads and indoors. A pair I've had for about two years are in near pefect condition and although scratched up significantly, the soles have plenty of wear left.

Over here they retail at about £300 a pair ($465)... why would anyone spend that much and then decide to wear such obviously non-hardcore boots to do hard work in?

I don't do the most strenuous, back breaking work... But I do climb and dig, and build in my Rancourt color #8 shell Blake boots. For $700, I had BETTER be able to WORK in them! I also wear them in pouring rain, and mud too.

And, honestly if I did have to pick a singular pair of pants to work the piss out of doing manual labor, it would be a heavy pair of IH's... There are lots of pictures out there showing people that do it, and they LAST.

I'm not saying Wolverines are terrible boots, because I haven't owned a pair, but it's not the first time I've heard this story. My job IS primarily office work, maybe 60/40 indoors to outdoors ratio, but in any given day at any time I could have to go climbs some ridiculous shit, or erect an antenna somewhere which includes manually digging a trench to run the cable. If I'm gonna buy boots for $300, they better LOOK GOOD and HOLD UP.

I agree with your premise. If you pay a GOOD price, you should receive a GOOD quality product, that should LAST. You also have to consider the design and practicality of the product, though. As I stated, Wolverine and RW make boots specifically designed for construction. I have a pair of RW steel toes, GYW, non - slip sole, and waterproof. I payed just shy of $200 for them, 3 years ago. They are designed for what I do with them. 1000K are not. Couple that fact with a higher price, and it should be a no brainer.

Now, I'll grant you IH makes a high quality work pant. But, I keep a rotation of 6 pairs of Carhartt work pants. 1 for every work day. Plus a spare for weekend OT, or if I manage to totally destroy a pair. They all get washed once a week, and it's rare I would wear a  pair more than once without washing. As you  can see in my previous post picture, I get dirty, and I get sweaty. It is uncomfortable on me not to wash them often. They will generally last 3-4 years, on average. Total cost is between $300-$400, or roughly $100/year. This is where practicality comes in. For the same rotation of IH, I'd easily have to spend north of a $1000 ( at CURRENT exchange rates, from Japan). At that price, they would need to last roughly 10 years to be practical. I know IH will LAST. But, with everything my work clothing is subjected to on a daily basis, there are no guarantees as to how long. It isn't practical for me to do it. I will say this, though.... I have been looking to buy my first IH item, and this has been a consideration. This discussion may have pushed me over the edge. I may give it a go, for the sake of research.

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Jun 13, 2015 12:48:41 GMT -6 scooter said:

Jun 13, 2015 11:08:37 GMT -6 @untucked said:

I don't do the most strenuous, back breaking work... But I do climb and dig, and build in my Rancourt color #8 shell Blake boots. For $700, I had BETTER be able to WORK in them! I also wear them in pouring rain, and mud too.

And, honestly if I did have to pick a singular pair of pants to work the piss out of doing manual labor, it would be a heavy pair of IH's... There are lots of pictures out there showing people that do it, and they LAST.

I'm not saying Wolverines are terrible boots, because I haven't owned a pair, but it's not the first time I've heard this story. My job IS primarily office work, maybe 60/40 indoors to outdoors ratio, but in any given day at any time I could have to go climbs some ridiculous shit, or erect an antenna somewhere which includes manually digging a trench to run the cable. If I'm gonna buy boots for $300, they better LOOK GOOD and HOLD UP.

I agree with your premise. If you pay a GOOD price, you should receive a GOOD quality product, that should LAST. You also have to consider the design and practicality of the product, though. As I stated, Wolverine and RW make boots specifically designed for construction. I have a pair of RW steel toes, GYW, non - slip sole, and waterproof. I payed just shy of $200 for them, 3 years ago. They are designed for what I do with them. 1000K are not. Couple that fact with a higher price, and it should be a no brainer.

Now, I'll grant you IH makes a high quality work pant. But, I keep a rotation of 6 pairs of Carhartt work pants. 1 for every work day. Plus a spare for weekend OT, or if I manage to totally destroy a pair. They all get washed once a week, and it's rare I would wear a  pair more than once without washing. As you  can see in my previous post picture, I get dirty, and I get sweaty. It is uncomfortable on me not to wash them often. They will generally last 3-4 years, on average. Total cost is between $300-$400, or roughly $100/year. This is where practicality comes in. For the same rotation of IH, I'd easily have to spend north of a $1000 ( at CURRENT exchange rates, from Japan). At that price, they would need to last roughly 10 years to be practical. I know IH will LAST. But, with everything my work clothing is subjected to on a daily basis, there are no guarantees as to how long. It isn't practical for me to do it. I will say this, though.... I have been looking to buy my first IH item, and this has been a consideration. This discussion may have pushed me over the edge. I may give it a go, for the sake of research.

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[scooter]

Jun 13, 2015 17:15:26 GMT -6 @untucked said:

Jun 13, 2015 12:48:41 GMT -6 scooter said:

I agree with your premise. If you pay a GOOD price, you should receive a GOOD quality product, that should LAST. You also have to consider the design and practicality of the product, though. As I stated, Wolverine and RW make boots specifically designed for construction. I have a pair of RW steel toes, GYW, non - slip sole, and waterproof. I payed just shy of $200 for them, 3 years ago. They are designed for what I do with them. 1000K are not. Couple that fact with a higher price, and it should be a no brainer.

Now, I'll grant you IH makes a high quality work pant. But, I keep a rotation of 6 pairs of Carhartt work pants. 1 for every work day. Plus a spare for weekend OT, or if I manage to totally destroy a pair. They all get washed once a week, and it's rare I would wear a  pair more than once without washing. As you  can see in my previous post picture, I get dirty, and I get sweaty. It is uncomfortable on me not to wash them often. They will generally last 3-4 years, on average. Total cost is between $300-$400, or roughly $100/year. This is where practicality comes in. For the same rotation of IH, I'd easily have to spend north of a $1000 ( at CURRENT exchange rates, from Japan). At that price, they would need to last roughly 10 years to be practical. I know IH will LAST. But, with everything my work clothing is subjected to on a daily basis, there are no guarantees as to how long. It isn't practical for me to do it. I will say this, though.... I have been looking to buy my first IH item, and this has been a consideration. This discussion may have pushed me over the edge. I may give it a go, for the sake of research.

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[andycmd]

Anybody have the Wolverine Rockfords?
I'm in the hunt for dressy cap toe boots.

[jbreitenbucher]

I'm sort of liking the new Evans boot

[bentin]

What's different, just the sole?

[jbreitenbucher]

bentin I believe that is it. So is it cheaper to buy a plain 1000 mile and get this sole put on after the leather sole wears out? Can you wait that long for a rubber sole? Could you get a rubber sole put on a new pair of 1000 miles for cheaper than the Evans?

[usctroll]

Anybody picking up the McLean captoe for $200 on sale this weekend? I'm about 50/50 on it because I've been wanting a pair of black boots for ages.