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Post by wisdom on Nov 20, 2014 1:58:38 GMT -6
Damn.. you're quick  That's how I started. I went from that to the incredibly humbling experience of working in operations all the way up to General Manager and on to corporate as competitive strategist and business development guy. It's funny.. when I first graduated, I thought I knew it all.. 15 years later I'm constantly finding out the more I learn, the more I still don't know. |
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Post by Griffin on Nov 20, 2014 2:58:24 GMT -6
Thats the way it works  |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 20, 2014 9:21:49 GMT -6
I was born a genius but now im getting dumber. I think thats called sigma fat guy
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 20, 2014 12:49:08 GMT -6
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Post by brentkuz on Nov 20, 2014 13:08:43 GMT -6
Looks very well crafted. That being said I hate popovers and will never wear one. Just never liked them. Really nice material and craftsmanship.
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Post by DigDug on Nov 20, 2014 15:02:46 GMT -6
I'd be tempted. But does anyone know why or for what a pop over is designed for? What trade/job?
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Post by jbcoulier on Nov 20, 2014 15:16:24 GMT -6
I wouldn't wear a popover -- but the shirt looks very well built. If I ever wore one it'd be yours but damn those things make me look like an old man or a baby... IMO. No offense. I mean they make ME look like that. I'm sure if James Dean wore it it'd be the shit. But then I'm not James Dean, so... Old26 could probably pull it off as he looks pretty cool and rugged, but w/ my Asian features I'd look like a Chinese dude working on the railroad pyjama type thing.
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Post by Griffin on Nov 20, 2014 15:18:50 GMT -6
And that just might be the profession. Chinese trainworkers-clothes.
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Post by jbcoulier on Nov 20, 2014 15:34:08 GMT -6
I think you're right Griff. That could be a whole new sub-species of workwear... 'disadvantaged working minorities wear'. I better stop there before I get specific and get 'moderated' out of here! (I'm working on my pigtail tho to go with that popover!)
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Post by exophobe on Nov 20, 2014 15:40:45 GMT -6
I wouldn't wear a popover -- but the shirt looks very well built. If I ever wore one it'd be yours but damn those things make me look like an old man or a baby... IMO. No offense. I mean they make ME look like that. I'm sure if James Dean wore it it'd be the shit. But then I'm not James Dean, so... Old26 could probably pull it off as he looks pretty cool and rugged, but w/ my Asian features I'd look like a Chinese dude working on the railroad pyjama type thing. or maybe an old man-baby. I really like the look of em but it is a tough look to pull off, they always seem to pull down in the back if they're not buttoned all the way up, and then it gives you a weird man-baby beer-belly. wonder what they'd be like if you threw a hood on them, though. |
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Post by Tertius Gaudens on Nov 20, 2014 15:49:29 GMT -6
I think you're right Griff. That could be a whole new sub-species of workwear... 'disadvantaged working minorities wear'. Cultural Appropriation at its finest |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 20, 2014 16:40:40 GMT -6
Yeah the pop over shirt is for cool people anyhow so you guys are good. POP POP POP
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Post by stinky on Nov 20, 2014 16:50:13 GMT -6
Yeah the pop over shirt is for cool people anyhow so you guys are good. POP POP POP You're supposed to be on a plane. |
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Post by Griffin on Nov 20, 2014 16:59:04 GMT -6
He is not worried of a planecrach since he wears LD tough as nails body armore-class denim Jeans, 25oz boxers, a 15oz shirt, 24oz wool cpo. So if the plane electronics buzz out he just pops on the popover on top of that and continues updating his instagram!
..its beautiful btw and thanks for posting!
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Post by DigDug on Nov 20, 2014 17:18:34 GMT -6
Hay DirtyDenim how's that wool 24oz black watch going to look in the CPO shirt. More as shirt or a jacket?
I just need a little push to grab one.
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Post by jockohomo on Nov 20, 2014 19:29:08 GMT -6
How soon after ordering will you guys start production? I have a Gustin CPO coming, and I'm considering getting a LD CPO, the black 24oz one, and return my black Wallace and Barnes CPO. Ill tell everyone this. Kickstarter is/was a nightmare in trying to get responses to the sizing needs of customers. We have 100+ people with no response to messages or emails. Wrong emails were given or we just get nothing back. Now with that said we have moved on to the rest of the orders as you can tell with some getting promo pairs and old site orders. We are making some great changes to many production areas that will help speed up the process a bit. Imagine this. In a normal factory 1 type of jean will be made with all the same thread,buttons and set sizes. They will bang those same jeans out without having to change much. BUT with us when you have to constantly change the thread out from one color to another that adds an enormous amount of time to the day. Add on top of that custom adjustments and you are really slowing it down. With all that said, we are damn near great at it. We have a few things in play that we implemented while I was here and they instantly produced what Roman called his best day of production YET. (I posted a lil video of a bunch of items all bagged up on my IG) We say 6to 8 weeks not because thats how long it takes to make the item but because thats how long it will take till we get to your order. If we average 30 orders a day and there are 1000 orders ahead of you, that would mean about 34 days till we get to your order. We say 56 days at the high end because sometimes we are waiting on fabric or maybe the jeans could have sewed up small. If that happens we make em again. We can also be bit behind schedule with maybe the shop running a bit slow. There are a million different variables with our model but I am confident we are getting real close to being a well oiled machine. I mean you may see a few here and there with a line off track but this is all done by human eye and even that will get better. We are a bit over 1 year live and I think thats pretty amazing when you look at what we are putting out. I imagine in another few months to a year we will be consistently sending product 1 to 2 weeks faster and spot on to size. Bear with us as we grow to be what I know we can be. I have to admit one of the apprehensions I have about ordering from LD at this time is the lack of a delivery history. Your explanation above confuses me. The first sentence of the second paragraph seems to say that the 6-8 week timeframe is the time it takes "till we get to your order." You then give a 34 day and 54 day example, do these correlate to the 6 (30 days)or 8 (40 days) week timeframe or are they in addition, or something else? Could you shed some light on this? |
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Post by dock on Nov 20, 2014 22:45:35 GMT -6
i'm going against the grain, i think the pullover is great, and in terms of authenticity it is very much a part of the work wear offerings of the 20th century
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 22:56:37 GMT -6
I am fine with pullover but would go for wool instead of denim.
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Post by Old26 on Nov 20, 2014 23:04:09 GMT -6
i'm going against the grain, i think the pullover is great, and in terms of authenticity it is very much a part of the work wear offerings of the 20th century I've got a couple and I love them. The trick is that they need to fit well. If they're balloony, then they look like crap. I have a nice Carhartt hickory striped one I wear a lot. I'd go for one. |
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Post by exophobe on Nov 20, 2014 23:51:55 GMT -6
i'm going against the grain, i think the pullover is great, and in terms of authenticity it is very much a part of the work wear offerings of the 20th century I've got a couple and I love them. The trick is that they need to fit well. If they're balloony, then they look like crap. I have a nice Carhartt hickory striped one I wear a lot. I'd go for one. I'd definitely be down to try one out in a canvas or heavy chambray or something similar. I also think that if, in those same materials, it had a lined hood and no collar. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 21, 2014 0:01:55 GMT -6
Ill tell everyone this. Kickstarter is/was a nightmare in trying to get responses to the sizing needs of customers. We have 100+ people with no response to messages or emails. Wrong emails were given or we just get nothing back. Now with that said we have moved on to the rest of the orders as you can tell with some getting promo pairs and old site orders. We are making some great changes to many production areas that will help speed up the process a bit. Imagine this. In a normal factory 1 type of jean will be made with all the same thread,buttons and set sizes. They will bang those same jeans out without having to change much. BUT with us when you have to constantly change the thread out from one color to another that adds an enormous amount of time to the day. Add on top of that custom adjustments and you are really slowing it down. With all that said, we are damn near great at it. We have a few things in play that we implemented while I was here and they instantly produced what Roman called his best day of production YET. (I posted a lil video of a bunch of items all bagged up on my IG) We say 6to 8 weeks not because thats how long it takes to make the item but because thats how long it will take till we get to your order. If we average 30 orders a day and there are 1000 orders ahead of you, that would mean about 34 days till we get to your order. We say 56 days at the high end because sometimes we are waiting on fabric or maybe the jeans could have sewed up small. If that happens we make em again. We can also be bit behind schedule with maybe the shop running a bit slow. There are a million different variables with our model but I am confident we are getting real close to being a well oiled machine. I mean you may see a few here and there with a line off track but this is all done by human eye and even that will get better. We are a bit over 1 year live and I think thats pretty amazing when you look at what we are putting out. I imagine in another few months to a year we will be consistently sending product 1 to 2 weeks faster and spot on to size. Bear with us as we grow to be what I know we can be. I have to admit one of the apprehensions I have about ordering from LD at this time is the lack of a delivery history. Your explanation above confuses me. The first sentence of the second paragraph seems to say that the 6-8 week timeframe is the time it takes "till we get to your order." You then give a 34 day and 54 day example, do these correlate to the 6 (30 days)or 8 (40 days) week timeframe or are they in addition, or something else? Could you shed some light on this? Doesn't 8 X 7= 56? I said that because when you are producing an item that is going direct to the consumer, there are variables you guys witness that you never even know goes on when you buy direct from the store. You just buy whats in stock not knowing maybe those exact jeans took longer than expected. We have a business model where our customers basically are the same as a buyer for a department store. Thats all I am saying. I get why people can be aprehensive but most are aprehensive of buying a $300-$400 item they can order today and get it tomorrow |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 21, 2014 0:19:49 GMT -6
Hay DirtyDenim how's that wool 24oz black watch going to look in the CPO shirt. More as shirt or a jacket? I just need a little push to grab one. Its gonna be a great shirt for sure. The best way to describe how its feels is "DENSE" It feels compacted like boiled wool but doesnt look like boiled wool if that makes any sense. If we were to line it then thats a different story. By the way while I was in AZ we were working on a few jackets and a shirt with hand warmer pockets. The jacket idea was to use a Navy oiled canvas with black lambs wool (jacket style i'll keep a secret) We spoke about a Levis 1947 501 cut based off the pair I brought with me. No worries about them coming in baggy and wide at the hem because the pair I brought was a 36 waist with 8.5 hem so great fit all around. Thats going to take a bit as we just started talking about it but will be done eventually. The plan is to have 5 or 6 new items made in the next month or so. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2014 0:37:20 GMT -6
Hay DirtyDenim how's that wool 24oz black watch going to look in the CPO shirt. More as shirt or a jacket? I just need a little push to grab one. Its gonna be a great shirt for sure. The best way to describe how its feels is "DENSE" It feels compacted like boiled wool but doesnt look like boiled wool if that makes any sense. If we were to line it then thats a different story. By the way while I was in AZ we were working on a few jackets and a shirt with hand warmer pockets. The jacket idea was to use a Navy oiled canvas with black lambs wool (jacket style i'll keep a secret) We spoke about a Levis 1947 501 cut based off the pair I brought with me. No worries about them coming in baggy and wide at the hem because the pair I brought was a 36 waist with 8.5 hem so great fit all around. Thats going to take a bit as we just started talking about it but will be done eventually. The plan is to have 5 or 6 new items made in the next month or so. Interesting, DD. I remember a guy posted a photo on this forum awhile back with a blue heavy flannel shirt that has side pockets. I am wondering will the LD one be similar. |
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Post by Dirty_Denim on Nov 21, 2014 0:55:42 GMT -6
Its gonna be a great shirt for sure. The best way to describe how its feels is "DENSE" It feels compacted like boiled wool but doesnt look like boiled wool if that makes any sense. If we were to line it then thats a different story. By the way while I was in AZ we were working on a few jackets and a shirt with hand warmer pockets. The jacket idea was to use a Navy oiled canvas with black lambs wool (jacket style i'll keep a secret) We spoke about a Levis 1947 501 cut based off the pair I brought with me. No worries about them coming in baggy and wide at the hem because the pair I brought was a 36 waist with 8.5 hem so great fit all around. Thats going to take a bit as we just started talking about it but will be done eventually. The plan is to have 5 or 6 new items made in the next month or so. Interesting, DD. I remember a guy posted a photo on this forum awhile back with a blue heavy flannel shirt that has side pockets. I am wondering will the LD one be similar. The hand warmer shirt was talked about with wool in mind as well as a few other fabrics including canvas but we need to find a good alternative for that. I owned the IH 54 and that was the best hand warmer shirt I ever owned so... |
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Post by jockohomo on Nov 21, 2014 8:07:54 GMT -6
I have to admit one of the apprehensions I have about ordering from LD at this time is the lack of a delivery history. Your explanation above confuses me. The first sentence of the second paragraph seems to say that the 6-8 week timeframe is the time it takes "till we get to your order." You then give a 34 day and 54 day example, do these correlate to the 6 (30 days)or 8 (40 days) week timeframe or are they in addition, or something else? Could you shed some light on this? Doesn't 8 X 7= 56? I said that because when you are producing an item that is going direct to the consumer, there are variables you guys witness that you never even know goes on when you buy direct from the store. You just buy whats in stock not knowing maybe those exact jeans took longer than expected. We have a business model where our customers basically are the same as a buyer for a department store. Thats all I am saying. I get why people can be aprehensive but most are aprehensive of buying a $300-$400 item they can order today and get it tomorrow Sal, sorry I messed up on the math. I completely understand the variables in your customization/production model and that they will complicate your life more than you might know. I did not realize you guys were running 7 days a week. BTW, how many seamstresses do you guys employ??? In any event, I really want to order a shirt, but I think I will wait till I see more pictures in various fabrics and see how the delivery schedule shakes out.
In addition, I will tell you my decision is impacted by the fact that Dig Dug indicates he is still waiting for an LD shirt he backed (via KS) in June.
It is interesting that you bring up the issue of apprehension when ordering a $300-$400 item and getting it quickly. I ordered some "Kinda Special" Roy jeans from Self Edge on Monday and got them Wednesday. Of course, I had no apprehension since Self Edge assured me that"
"We don't know of another jean available anywhere with this level of detail in the production."
I can not agree more!!!
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That's how I started. I went from that to the incredibly humbling experience of working in operations all the way up to General Manager and on to corporate as competitive strategist and business development guy.
