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Post by cianofarmer on Nov 13, 2015 21:44:55 GMT -6
just a heads up...the spec we provided is for a regular fit shirt..we do not have a slim fit spec yet...but working on one...would be great to point us in the right direction for a slim fit model that everyone likes....and do not say the other brand that starts with a 'G" Cheers Ciano
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Post by wdw on Nov 13, 2015 22:52:56 GMT -6
cianofarmer, I know Texas guys are big, but if you want a slim fit guide, I'd suggest simply using the regular IHUK sizing, as they seem to work for everyone who's bought one. Having 4 IH shirts, my suggestion would be this for the western. I don't have any work shirts, but I'd imagine their sizing would be just as good. I'm sure someone here could suggest a specific shirt. Please note that you'd need to add your shrinkage on top of these numbers, so that your shirts shrink down to these measurements.
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Post by brentkuz on Nov 14, 2015 5:54:50 GMT -6
I'd be in for buttons or snaps. I thought I would hate snaps and then I got the IH buffalo check western and I love it. Same with me. Never was a western guy but I copped a cheap lucky brand shirt for $8 and loved it. Got into the IH stuff after that.
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Post by jjflash on Nov 14, 2015 6:01:04 GMT -6
I'm with Mike--unleash the Wabash!
Exciting development.
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Post by jon5544 on Nov 14, 2015 8:29:50 GMT -6
I'm in for one...black/black
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2015 9:50:47 GMT -6
I'll be looking forward to seeing the western. The pocket kills this one for me. Prefer a square bottom and being able to put my hand into a pocket to fish out small items. The best pen pockets are a pocket in the pocket not requiring the stitching to make the opening smaller. Also needs two pockets for a work shirt. I would never dry clean anything denim so wash and dry numbers would be helpful.
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Post by Whiskey Mercenary on Nov 14, 2015 10:39:25 GMT -6
For the slim fit, I'm extremely partial to the Unbranded cut. The medium on me is awesome
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Post by davelewis on Nov 14, 2015 10:45:18 GMT -6
cianofarmer, I know Texas guys are big, but if you want a slim fit guide, I'd suggest simply using the regular IHUK sizing, as they seem to work for everyone who's bought one. Having 4 IH shirts, my suggestion would be this for the western. I don't have any work shirts, but I'd imagine their sizing would be just as good. I'm sure someone here could suggest a specific shirt. Please note one that you'd need to add your shrinkage on top of these numbers, so that your shirts shrink down to these measurements. I agree with Eric, in that my Western IH shirt is the best fitting shirts I have. Their sizing must work as they seem to sell out extremely fast. For myself, I have to have 2 pockets for either a Western, or work shirt, and the configuration of the pocket in the example doesn't seem user friendly, in that it is too narrow with the stitching for the pen holder, and taper of the pocket at the bottom. A great start though, and I know that you will tweak these until everyone is happy. Well, most of us, lol. Its great to see you branching out into shirts.
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Post by davelewis on Nov 14, 2015 10:46:36 GMT -6
I'll be looking forward to seeing the western. The pocket kills this one for me. Prefer a square bottom and being able to put my hand into a pocket to fish out small items. The best pen pockets are a pocket in the pocket not requiring the stitching to make the opening smaller. Also needs two pockets for a work shirt. I would never dry clean anything denim so wash and dry numbers would be helpful. Who on Earth dry cleans their denim?
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Post by bentin on Nov 15, 2015 9:05:47 GMT -6
I'll be looking forward to seeing the western. The pocket kills this one for me. Prefer a square bottom and being able to put my hand into a pocket to fish out small items. The best pen pockets are a pocket in the pocket not requiring the stitching to make the opening smaller. Also needs two pockets for a work shirt. I would never dry clean anything denim so wash and dry numbers would be helpful. Who on Earth dry cleans their denim? People that listen to country music.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 10:06:10 GMT -6
One of my brothers used to have his jeans dry cleaned. He's kind of fastidious, and a Texan. But not a line dancer.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2015 10:41:13 GMT -6
Who on Earth dry cleans their denim? People that listen to country music. and prefer a crease be pressed into their jeans
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Post by phydeaux on Nov 15, 2015 11:05:22 GMT -6
When I was growwing up here in Texas I remember the first time I saw jeans that could stand up on their own. An older brother of a girl I was seeing had all of his jeans (Wranglers, of course) hanging in his closet. To me that was weird, I mean who hangs up ther jeans? Well, when I looked at a pair they were starched and pressed so thoroughly that I could easily get them to stand on their own as if they were jeans for some two dimensional "cowboy". Notice the scare quotes around cowboy. If you know the type then you know what I mean.
As far as the workshirt goes, I agree with the comments about the pocket. I like two pockets, I prefer a less acute angle on the bottom of the pocket and I like the pockets to be large enough to easily reach in and get something small like a coin. I will actually use the shirt pockets and their utility is important to me.
Good looking so far Ciano. I think the flurry of activity that follows any news here shows how interested folks are in your work!
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Post by northcoast on Nov 15, 2015 14:23:34 GMT -6
cianofarmer, I know Texas guys are big, but if you want a slim fit guide, I'd suggest simply using the regular IHUK sizing, as they seem to work for everyone who's bought one. Having 4 IH shirts, my suggestion would be this for the western. I don't have any work shirts, but I'd imagine their sizing would be just as good. I'm sure someone here could suggest a specific shirt. Please note one that you'd need to add your shrinkage on top of these numbers, so that your shirts shrink down to these measurements. I agree with Eric, in that my Western IH shirt is the best fitting shirts I have. Their sizing must work as they seem to sell out extremely fast. For myself, I have to have 2 pockets for either a Western, or work shirt, and the configuration of the pocket in the example doesn't seem user friendly, in that it is too narrow with the stitching for the pen holder, and taper of the pocket at the bottom. A great start though, and I know that you will tweak these until everyone is happy. Well, most of us, lol. Its great to see you branching out into shirts. I appreciate that the IH sizing works for some, but I find it absurd. In the world Im a 46L and IHUK XXXL will not fit me. Every other XXXL I would be swimming in. I like the current suggested size chart, the sleeve length looks a little long but with 1" shrink should be fine.
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Post by Old26 on Nov 15, 2015 14:35:45 GMT -6
I agree with Eric, in that my Western IH shirt is the best fitting shirts I have. Their sizing must work as they seem to sell out extremely fast. For myself, I have to have 2 pockets for either a Western, or work shirt, and the configuration of the pocket in the example doesn't seem user friendly, in that it is too narrow with the stitching for the pen holder, and taper of the pocket at the bottom. A great start though, and I know that you will tweak these until everyone is happy. Well, most of us, lol. Its great to see you branching out into shirts. I appreciate that the IH sizing works for some, but I find it absurd. In the world Im a 46L and IHUK XXXL will not fit me. Every other XXXL I would be swimming in. I like the current suggested size chart, the sleeve length looks a little long but with 1" shrink should be fine. Feel your pain. I'd rather they just use numbers as the S-XXXXL thing is absurd.
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Post by ickes on Nov 15, 2015 17:35:04 GMT -6
I agree with what some of the other members here have said; -give the shirt two pockets (two pockets is a must for a WS IMO) -change the pocket design to a "normal" pocket design -fit guide numbers do seem large -and yeah....who the hell dry cleans denim?? lol cianofarmer I'm a bit confused regarding the shrinkage though...you're saying that all of your shirting fabrics will shrink an inch??? I wouldn't think you would be able to generalize that across the board as each fabric can be it's own animal. I could be wrong but most denim shirts don't shrink much unless they are unsanforized, correct???
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Post by ickes on Nov 15, 2015 17:39:29 GMT -6
liking what you've got going so far though but I think if you give the pockets a more classic look and add another one the shirt will look better and I will definitely be interested if shrinking/sizing issues can be determined for each fabric as well.
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Post by wdw on Nov 15, 2015 17:54:31 GMT -6
One of the reasons I never buy work shirts now is the pen pocket and the way it prevents anything useful fitting into the main pocket.
I agree with everyone who says it need two usable pockets. As long as I can get my card holder and phone in, I'm happy, otherwise I wouldn't buy.
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Post by DigDug on Nov 15, 2015 18:09:19 GMT -6
I'll second the thought for a second pocket. I'd like I see two pockets one with a flap.
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Post by oatwilly on Nov 15, 2015 21:31:51 GMT -6
the lengths are mighty long as well
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Post by davelewis on Nov 15, 2015 22:18:11 GMT -6
I agree with Eric, in that my Western IH shirt is the best fitting shirts I have. Their sizing must work as they seem to sell out extremely fast. For myself, I have to have 2 pockets for either a Western, or work shirt, and the configuration of the pocket in the example doesn't seem user friendly, in that it is too narrow with the stitching for the pen holder, and taper of the pocket at the bottom. A great start though, and I know that you will tweak these until everyone is happy. Well, most of us, lol. Its great to see you branching out into shirts. I appreciate that the IH sizing works for some, but I find it absurd. In the world Im a 46L and IHUK XXXL will not fit me. Every other XXXL I would be swimming in. I like the current suggested size chart, the sleeve length looks a little long but with 1" shrink should be fine. Not to worry, as I have no doubt the Ciano will accommodate the guys that need a real US XXL, which would be an IH XXXXXL, lol. He will not leave the big guys out.
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Post by davelewis on Nov 15, 2015 22:20:57 GMT -6
I agree with what some of the other members here have said; -give the shirt two pockets (two pockets is a must for a WS IMO) -change the pocket design to a "normal" pocket design -fit guide numbers do seem large -and yeah....who the hell dry cleans denim?? lol cianofarmer I'm a bit confused regarding the shrinkage though...you're saying that all of your shirting fabrics will shrink an inch??? I wouldn't think you would be able to generalize that across the board as each fabric can be it's own animal. I could be wrong but most denim shirts don't shrink much unless they are unsanforized, correct??? Yea, not sure about that either, as I don't think any of my sanforized denim shirts got that much shrink, or even half that much, with a hot wash. That, and the fact that I don't have any unsanforized shirts.
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Post by unnamed on Nov 16, 2015 0:41:02 GMT -6
the more feed back we get the better.... we can adjust the patterns..so please let us know so we can get the perfect shirt to everyone and give IH a run for there money....MADE IN THE USA...HAAAA The new shirt looks great. Re Iron Heart: IH makes great clothing in terms of construction, but what really sets IH apart from other high-end workwear brands is not it's construction or fit, which is crazy nice don't get me wrong, but it's materials. If you want to get even close to giving IH a run for it's money in terms of materials the thing to do is start using super duper nice/rare cotton varieties such as: LUXSIC, WISIC, Aspero, Pima, Supima, Egyptian, Zimbabwe, Suvin, Memphis, organic cotton, heirlooms, etc.... Sadly Cone will not usually deliver this kind of quality without asking and having something specifically made which is super expensive, but maybe you could talk to the old guy in Texas with the loom or source some super exotic cotton denims from Japan. This would put CF firmly in the club of heavy-hitters of the denim world.
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Post by whiskeyriver on Nov 16, 2015 8:30:45 GMT -6
Two pockets, make them both normal flap or one flap and one non-flap, don't make the shirt longer than 30.5", cut down on the dimensions as there's no way in the world I should be wearing an extra small.
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Post by bugula on Nov 19, 2015 8:17:28 GMT -6
lookin' good, ciano!
haven't been following the thread here but just got the email. when you start doing the westerns in a japanese denim, i'm in!!
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